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Old 10-29-2013, 07:38 PM  
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**The Obamacare Shitfest thread**

At the rate this thing is falling apart I figures it's time for a game-style thread for this abortion of a law.

This is what we get from lawmakers who don't even read the law...

1. Web site crashes...no one tested it
2. Insurance policies being canceled even after Obama stated multiple times you can keep your insurance if you like it
3. Valerie Jarrett says blame the insurance companies
4. Insurance companies say "we are just following the law"
5. HHS neutered the "Grandfather" clause with multiple regulations
6. Jay Carney tells us what the President "really meant" and that we were all just too stupid to "get it"
7. IRS knew as soon as 2010 that over 50% of individual insurance policy holders would lose coverage
8. Men are being forced to carry "maternity coverage"
9. Women who cannot get pregnant are being forced to carry "maternity coverage"
10. We keep getting told this is "affordable" yet deductible seem to be going up as well as premiums on balance
11. The Fed Gov won't tell us how many people have actually signed up
13. Obama knew nothing about any of it
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:48 AM   #61
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I've been reading this cosmo/pete discussion over what was said and it's hilarious.

pete, you said it. It's been quoted that you said it. Admit it. Move on. Stop moving the goalposts.
I have not moved any goalposts. Try reading the entire sentence instead of reading 4 words of it.

So you can admit you didn't read the entire sentence.......so move on
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:49 AM   #62
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I've been reading this cosmo/pete discussion over what was said and it's hilarious.

pete, you said it. It's been quoted that you said it. Admit it. Move on. Stop moving the goalposts.
Here is what I said since you obviously didn't read it...

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if a Doctor retired thus causing your insurance company to revise your list of available doctors then it lost it's Grandfathered status

Next time do yourself a favor and read slower
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:52 AM   #63
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Basically, Dirk, if a Doctor retired thus causing your insurance company to revise your list of available doctors then it lost it's Grandfathered status.
And now I've quoted it for good measure.

You said.... "if a doctor retired thus causing your insurance company to revise....".

He said that isn't true and asked you to prove it. You said he was a lier and said:

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I never said a doctor retiring caused it. I said once they changed the list of doctors. Read more and try reaching a little less.
Which is completely a lie because that is, in fact, exactly what you said. Then you started rambling about Obama saying "You can keep your plan if you want to" which had nothing to do with what you two were arguing about.

Were you drinking heavily last night?
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:54 AM   #64
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Why say use "doctor retiring" as an example of the doctor list changing which allows for loss of grandfathering if you didn't mean "doctor retiring"?
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Old 10-30-2013, 08:09 AM   #65
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Why say use "doctor retiring" as an example of the doctor list changing which allows for loss of grandfathering if you didn't mean "doctor retiring"?
I used doctor retiring as an example of a reason to revise the list of doctors. Revising the list of doctors is the key part. JFC it's like you guys can't read.
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Old 10-30-2013, 08:46 AM   #66
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I used doctor retiring as an example of a reason to revise the list of doctors. Revising the list of doctors is the key part. JFC it's like you guys can't read.
That and they can't see things. Some things don't exist in their universe.
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Old 10-30-2013, 08:47 AM   #67
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Where is the official thread? All you people are utilizing an imposter thread therefore anything said in here is null and void.
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Old 10-30-2013, 09:02 AM   #68
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That and they can't see things. Some things don't exist in their universe.
Look, I know you are one of the "special" people here on CP, but I'm not sure what we are supposed to be seeing. He said "retiring doctors affects the list so that it cancels out grandfathering".....literally, that is what he said.

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Basically, Dirk, if a Doctor retired thus causing your insurance company to revise your list of available doctors then it lost it's Grandfathered status.


He used it as an example of things that would cancel out grandfathering of plans. Then, he lied and said he never said it....

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I never said a doctor retiring caused it. I said once they changed the list of doctors. Read more and try reaching a little less.

So please, explain to us less "special" people what we are missing.
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Old 10-30-2013, 09:27 AM   #69
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Look, I know you are one of the "special" people here on CP, but I'm not sure what we are supposed to be seeing. He said "retiring doctors affects the list so that it cancels out grandfathering".....literally, that is what he said.



He used it as an example of things that would cancel out grandfathering of plans. Then, he lied and said he never said it....




So please, explain to us less "special" people what we are missing.
BULLSHIT! You need to go back and read slower. I said I never said a doctor retiring was the reason the plan got canceled. I said the resulting revision of the list of available doctors would be.

You can kiss the fattest part of my ass, Plow because you know good and damn well what I said. I didn't allow cosmo to pull this bullshit of parsing what I said to fit his argument. Apparently you will.
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Look, I know you are one of the "special" people here on CP, but I'm not sure what we are supposed to be seeing. He said "retiring doctors affects the list so that it cancels out grandfathering".....literally, that is what he said.



He used it as an example of things that would cancel out grandfathering of plans. Then, he lied and said he never said it....




So please, explain to us less "special" people what we are missing.
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I never said a doctor retiring caused it. I said once they changed the list of doctors. Read more and try reaching a little less.

Kiss my ass, Plow
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apparently some of you need the big crayons....revising the list of available doctors will kill the Grandfather clause...

Example:

Doctor retires....

this causes the insurance company to revise their list of available doctors....

revising the the list of available doctors kills the Grandfather clause...


So...the doctor retiring doesn't cause it..as I stated. It DOES cause the list of doctors to be revised.


My ****ing God!
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apparently some of you need the big crayons....revising the list of available doctors will kill the Grandfather clause...

Example:

Doctor retires....

this causes the insurance company to revise their list of available doctors....

revising the the list of available doctors kills the Grandfather clause...

So...the doctor retiring doesn't cause it..as I stated. It DOES cause the list of doctors to be revised.

My ****ing God!
The distinction you are trying to make is ridiculous, but the main point I've been attacking all along is that revising the list of available doctors will not kill the Grandfather clause.
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Look, I know you are one of the "special" people here on CP, but I'm not sure what we are supposed to be seeing. He said "retiring doctors affects the list so that it cancels out grandfathering".....literally, that is what he said.
Well, thanks for this designation but I doubt this. I'm just a political junkie that cares about my country particularly when it comes to losing our freedoms.

Furthermore, it's was just a general comment about the left. Loneiguana is frequently guilty of not harboring one iota of consideration to certain concepts.
A few others too who whitewash socialism and/or Obama.
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