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Old 10-30-2013, 11:53 AM  
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Victory for Jamie Oliver in the U.S. as McDonald’s is forced to stop using pink slime

TV chef was disgusted to discover ammonium hydroxide was being used by McDonald's to convert fatty beef offcuts into a beef filler for burgers




'Why would any sensible human being want to put ammonia-filled meat into their children's mouths? asked Jamie Oliver



McDonald's denies its hand had been forced by TV campaign


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Old 10-30-2013, 05:38 PM   #61
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This thread amazes me like almost all threads related to our health. I don't care what any of you want to friggen eat or how many of you want to go to McDonalds irregardless of what I think of them. I am for informing the consumer. GMO's should be labeled. Organic food should be labeled. If you are using fillers it should be labeled. What is it about large percentage of you that want to deny the consumer this very basic right considering they are ingesting it? Is there any other part of the consumer world where you would believe misleading the consumer or denying them the right to know exactly what they are purchasing is valid? This is really a no brainer to me.
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Old 10-30-2013, 05:42 PM   #62
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I am consistently amazed that Midwesterners with conservative "don't screw with me and I won't screw with you" values would be so willingly ****ed over by a bunch of rich ass mother****ers in New York.

For **** sake, farmers in the heartland, ranchers in Texas, and hunters everywhere should know what real food looks and tastes like. Why on earth vilify a guy whose sole message is "your kids should be protected from assholes who want to sell them poison."

And the BEST part is these guys who, in the same breath, defend McDonald's for turning a massive profit, yet dismiss Jamie Oliver for also doing so.

It leads me to one, inexorable conclusion...

You're ****ing morons who deserve to eat yourselves to death.
Most of them stuff their faces with fast food. They're trying to justify it to themselves.
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:14 PM   #63
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You're kidding, right? You have to be kidding.
Why would I be kidding? Low cost food is a good thing.
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:15 PM   #64
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Of course he has an agenda. Everyone has an agenda. It just seems to me that his agenda is much better for our society than McDonald's agenda is.
Jamies Agenda is to sell more cookbooks and get more tv time so he can make a ton of money.

McDonalds agenda is to sell a lot of fast cheap ass burgers so they make a lot of money.

Society has zero to do with either of them.
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:20 PM   #65
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Jamies Agenda is to sell more cookbooks and get more tv time so he can make a ton of money.

McDonalds agenda is to sell a lot of fast cheap ass burgers so they make a lot of money.

Society has zero to do with either of them.
I realize you're kind of a ****ing moron, but the public food supply and how people abuse it are a societal problem.
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:22 PM   #66
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I am consistently amazed that Midwesterners with conservative "don't screw with me and I won't screw with you" values would be so willingly ****ed over by a bunch of rich ass mother****ers in New York.

For **** sake, farmers in the heartland, ranchers in Texas, and hunters everywhere should know what real food looks and tastes like. Why on earth vilify a guy whose sole message is "your kids should be protected from assholes who want to sell them poison."

And the BEST part is these guys who, in the same breath, defend McDonald's for turning a massive profit, yet dismiss Jamie Oliver for also doing so.

It leads me to one, inexorable conclusion...

You're ****ing morons who deserve to eat yourselves to death.
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:24 PM   #67
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It has to start with education and labeling. People have to better know what they're eating and know how to make meals of their own.
I don't think the majority of people care what they eat, caring is the problem.

Nobody can guzzle soda and eat junk food all day and claim ignorance about it.
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:37 PM   #68
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Isn't "pink slime" really just beef the same as any other but it's just smaller amounts that have been separated from the fat and other shit?
Someone named it 'pink slime' and started a whole big thing.
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lean finely textured beef is made from the remnant scraps of cattle carcasses that were once deemed too fatty to go into human food. The scraps are heated and centrifuged to reclaim bits of muscle and then the product is treated with ammonium hydroxide to kill bacteria like Salmonella and E. coli before being mixed into ground beef. Currently, USDA allows these beef products to contain up to 15 percent lean finely textured beef without labeling requirements, but last year the department said it would allow voluntary labeling.

Schools are back to buying ground beef that contains LFTB, USDA says its not an issue, and the Center for Science in the Public Interest, a left leaning outfit even says it became an issue because people thought it was gross.
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Old 10-30-2013, 09:14 PM   #70
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What did people think McNuggets were made from? Like there is a pile of chicken breasts in the dumpster with little mcnugget-shaped holes in them? You're eating fast food. It's crap. If you don't want crap then don't eat fast food. If you don't eat fast food then who cares about this.
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I'm pretty sure McDonald's announced that they stopped using this stuff over a year ago. But by all means, continue with your outrage.
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Old 10-31-2013, 12:22 AM   #73
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Hopefully he also doesn't eat cheese, baked goods or chocolate because ammonia is used to make those too. It's also naturally in a lot of foods including veggies and milk.
In meat its used to kill bacteria and antimicrobial to control pathogens.
This is not used when butchering beef such as beef cuts, but when processing beef sometimes. Typically when beef scraps and parts of the animal that would not be fit for human consumption are included as filler.

It's ammonium hydroxide - not naturally occurring ammonia. The only reason it's being used is to prevent things like trace amounts of fecal matter or other nasty parts of the cow that they use. They won't comment on it and I don't think they still do, but at one point cow bone was part of the filler used in the processed beef for McD's patties. A trusty bone grinder, eventually worked into a consistency of a fine powderlike existence. No label or notice issues as its technically 100% "beef".
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Old 10-31-2013, 12:30 AM   #74
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I don't think it's excessive. Because even the good options tend to be unhealthy. It's the Panera effect. People think they're eating healthy because they ordered less greasy coldcuts in a sandwich.

Because everything is McDonald's. And most consumers have no idea what they are putting into their bodies, and are often tricked into eating unhealthy stuff they thought was healthy. So i don't have a problem with watchdogs raising awareness of this kind of stuff, especially since McDonald's made a conscious decision to introduce unnatural ingredients into ordinary food in order to save cost. In general, that whole idea of valuing cost effective mass production over natural food is the main reason we have this obesity problem to begin with.
Adding massive amounts of salt, sugar, sodium and the like is a problem and contributes to the obesity problem. McDonalds is by far the worst in doing this to enhance taste because the processed foods they use are poor quality and cheap. They aren't required to improve it, but they are less than upfront about how they alter their products. I still eat there from time to time, I'm just aware of the unhealthy enhancement they do to their food and adjust my consumption as such.
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Isn't "pink slime" really just beef the same as any other but it's just smaller amounts that have been separated from the fat and other shit?
Someone named it 'pink slime' and started a whole big thing.
Yes, some yahoo gets on TV, shows a picture of finely textured CHICKEN, calls it pink slime in your ground beef, pours a bottle of toxic household ammonia cleaner over a hamburger and scares all the dumbshits of the world.

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lean finely textured beef is made from the remnant scraps of cattle carcasses that were once deemed too fatty to go into human food. The scraps are heated and centrifuged to reclaim bits of muscle and then the product is treated with ammonium hydroxide to kill bacteria like Salmonella and E. coli before being mixed into ground beef. Currently, USDA allows these beef products to contain up to 15 percent lean finely textured beef without labeling requirements, but last year the department said it would allow voluntary labeling.

Schools are back to buying ground beef that contains LFTB, USDA says its not an issue, and the Center for Science in the Public Interest, a left leaning outfit even says it became an issue because people thought it was gross.
THIS is real information, sadly most people refuse to learn it. more fun to scream pink slime and fear the zombie apocalypse.

Also many beef packers don't even use ammonium hydroxide, but instead use citric acid as the anti-microbial spray. Same as what's in your multi-vitamins. but that doesn't make quite as dramatic an after school special on ABC.
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