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Old 11-02-2013, 05:49 PM  
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Is Obama the most disingenuous POTUS ever ?

In light of the many issues at hand,the way they are handled,along with his Chicago style politics, is he the the most disingenuous POTUS ever?
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Old 11-04-2013, 09:12 AM   #2
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he's the worst President in the history of the US. Or, at a minimum bottom 3.

I'm not a republican or democrat. I don't vote (because it's pointless). but its clear to me he's a terrible President.
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:53 AM   #3
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:07 AM   #4
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he's the worst President in the history of the US. Or, at a minimum bottom 3.

I'm not a republican or democrat. I don't vote (because it's pointless). but its clear to me he's a terrible President.
I wouldn't go that far. I hate the guy but there have been a lot worse, and that might include George w.
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:07 AM   #5
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In light of the many issues at hand,the way they are handled,along with his Chicago style politics, is he the the most disingenuous POTUS ever?
Disingenuous ? That's putting it very very lightly
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:17 AM   #6
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he's the worst President in the history of the US. Or, at a minimum bottom 3.

I'm not a republican or democrat. I don't vote (because it's pointless). but its clear to me he's a terrible President.


He's the worst by far we still have 3 more years of this.
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:23 AM   #7
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:28 AM   #8
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Disingenuous ? That's putting it very very lightly
How about pathological disingenuous?

We have had many disingenuous Presidents, but Obama is the first I would call an intentional deceiver or pathological liar.
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:32 AM   #9
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He's the worst by far we still have 3 more years of this.
he's a puppet for the rich. the plan for corporatist rule has been in progress since tricky dick was VP. medicine is merely another step in that corporatist process.
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:34 AM   #10
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I don't know how much of what he does is his idea...I do think he's a presidential version of a spoiled little child.
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:39 AM   #11
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Alot of his deceptive praxctices are based on honed mind control techniques and now algorithms are the way to rule. And again this Google barge thing which now has another one being built on the bay is freaking wierd.
every human has a set of "mind games". what is important is that folks are free to experience their own reality, their own peaceful life, without interference. that is in essence, what the founding fathers created with the USC doc.

self awareness though, isn't for everybody. the majority of humans aren't clever enough to detect the bullshit con crooks pull on them. hence, the majority do not initiate human progress.
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:04 PM   #12
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Here you go Shrink . I put this down for awhile , it's getting dark .... I'm going to start working on it with my guitar again to sing later this year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dHUfy_YBps Can someone please tell me how to insert a you tube in this format ? I would be grateful.
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:08 PM   #13
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:17 PM   #14
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Obama is no more disingenuous than the average career politician, he just happens to be president so his lies are more noticeable.

What's funny is that people keep voting for these career politicians and then feigning shock when they inevitably lie and backtrack just as much as the previous president. Partisan talking points aside, can anyone really prove that we'd be worse off as a country with someone like Kucinich or Ron Paul in charge?
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:19 PM   #15
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They argued behind closed doors whether or not they should be honest with the American people about their Obamacare message, and decided they should allow a level of deceit into the message for the sake of simplicity. They accepted that their program wouldn't sell if they told the truth about it up front - that it was too complicated to be truthful, and that they wouldn't be able to sell their ideas if they allowed the details to muddy the utopian simplicity of them.

This isn't just a problem with Obama. This is the problem with progressivism on the whole. The ideology requires a constant state of lying in order to sell the mirage. They promise the sun and the stars, but they forget to tell you that you have to give up the ground you're standing on to get them. It's an ugly ideology but it's easy to sell because all they have to do is offer free stuff and lie about who pays for it.

Jon Stewart says conservatism is easy, but that's a lie too. It's never easy to be the party who has to tell the people the economic truth that there is no such thing as a free lunch, and that the people that will always pay in any scheme will be the middle class.

You would have to be stupid to be a member of the middle class and vote for Democrats.
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