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Old 11-15-2013, 09:03 AM  
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Pelosi doesn't know when to shutup for her own good

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"Did I ever tell my constituents that if they liked their plan they could keep it?" Pelosi asked. "I would have if I'd ever met anybody who liked his or her plan. But that was not my experience."
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ou_767125.html

In fact, Pelosi said in 2009: "If you like what you have, you can keep it." Pelosi's website still states: "Keep your doctor, and your current plan, if you like them."
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:06 AM   #2
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We need more media time for her. She and Harry relate so well to others. There is smething about hhem that resonates with blacks, latinos, unemployer 20 somethings.
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:08 AM   #3
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A classic Pelosiism....“We don’t have a policy problem,” Pelosi told her Democrats in the private meeting, a defense of the law written by Congress. “We have a website problem.”
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:16 AM   #4
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More TV time for her the better for the American sheeple in this country.

IMO at this point the more this thing ****s up from all angles, the better.
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:53 AM   #5
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Democrats better invent some crisis or 2014 could be a blood bath.
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Old 11-15-2013, 11:07 AM   #6
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Democrats better invent some crisis or 2014 could be a blood bath.
False flag operation coming up...

Let's see...we've done a school, a movie theater, and even a marathon...what could we do...A Mall!

I'm going to suggest a mall at our next meeting, so you may want to do a little more shopping online next summer.
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Old 11-15-2013, 12:03 PM   #7
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False flag operation coming up...

Let's see...we've done a school, a movie theater, and even a marathon...what could we do...A Mall!

I'm going to suggest a mall at our next meeting, so you may want to do a little more shopping online next summer.
Nah, they'll pull a page from Bill Clinton's playbook and bomb the hell out of a random country. Plenty to choose from that are having internal strife.
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Old 11-15-2013, 12:14 PM   #8
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Nah, they'll pull a page from Bill Clinton's playbook and bomb the hell out of a random country. Plenty to choose from that are having internal strife.
Nah, something easy like the Redskins / Braves / Indians naming controversy that wasn't of a moderate concern until the government lockout. I loved the timing with that one.
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Old 11-15-2013, 12:29 PM   #9
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False flag operation coming up...

Let's see...we've done a school, a movie theater, and even a marathon...what could we do...A Mall!

I'm going to suggest a mall at our next meeting, so you may want to do a little more shopping online next summer.
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Nah, they'll pull a page from Bill Clinton's playbook and bomb the hell out of a random country. Plenty to choose from that are having internal strife.
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Nah, something easy like the Redskins / Braves / Indians naming controversy that wasn't of a moderate concern until the government lockout. I loved the timing with that one.
More realistic option; the debt ceiling is about to be hit, again, in less than 90 days. That will be the crisis.
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:30 PM   #10
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Hmm. I looked at her site. Look at the line at the very bottom of this attachment. The entire section reads:

GREATER CHOICE
  • Keep your doctor, and your current plan, if you like them
  • More choice, with a high quality public health insurance option competing with private insurers
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Old 11-15-2013, 10:56 PM   #11
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Hmm. I looked at her site. Look at the line at the very bottom of this attachment. The entire section reads:

GREATER CHOICE
  • Keep your doctor, and your current plan, if you like them
  • More choice, with a high quality public health insurance option competing with private insurers
That phrase was stupid from the start. Even before Obamacare, you were never entitled to keep your health insurance plan in the next year simply if you like it. The insurance company could change the terms, rates or whatever and then it's not the "same" plan.

"Keep your plan if it is available"--that would have saved them a lot of headaches.
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Old 11-15-2013, 11:34 PM   #12
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That phrase was stupid from the start. Even before Obamacare, you were never entitled to keep your health insurance plan in the next year simply if you like it. The insurance company could change the terms, rates or whatever and then it's not the "same" plan.

"Keep your plan if it is available"--that would have saved them a lot of headaches.
You really think by re-wording his promise that the results we see today,would be any different? You're smarter then that big boy
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Old 11-15-2013, 11:38 PM   #13
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That phrase was stupid from the start. Even before Obamacare, you were never entitled to keep your health insurance plan in the next year simply if you like it. The insurance company could change the terms, rates or whatever and then it's not the "same" plan.

"Keep your plan if it is available"--that would have saved them a lot of headaches.
To me the phrase used implies that there is nothing about Obamacare that would cause anyone's current policy to be rendered invalid or cancelled.
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Old 11-15-2013, 11:55 PM   #14
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Old 11-16-2013, 12:37 AM   #15
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To me the phrase used implies that there is nothing about Obamacare that would cause anyone's current policy to be rendered invalid or cancelled.
"If it is available" puts at least part of the blame on the insurance companies who made changes to avoid grandfathering. And more importantly, it would largely eliminate the accusations that they lied about it.
Sure, some people would still be pissed about losing their plan, but Obama wouldn't automatically get the blame and he wouldn't be accused of lying.
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