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Old 11-18-2013, 03:49 PM  
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TAOS, N.M. (KRQE) - A simple traffic stop turned into a wild scene with a 14-year-old rushing a state cop, a high-speed chase and another officer firing at a fleeing minivan full of kids.Now the driver and her son are facing charges while New Mexico State Police are investigating the officers involved.

It all started Oct. 28 on a state highway south of Taos. A State Police officer pulled over Oriana Ferrell's minivan for going 71 mphr in a 55 mph zone. In the minivan with her were her five kids. The Taos News reports the children range in age from 6 to 18. On dash cam video you can see Ferrell and the officer argue after Ferrell couldn't decide whether to pay the $126 fine or contest it in court. The officer instructs her to turn her vehicle off and stay put before walking back to his car.But.

Ferrell drives off instead and the officer has to pull her over again. He doesn't appear happy as he approaches the driver's side door of the minivan.The officer yells for Ferrell to get out several times before reaching into the minivan to try and pull her out.In the dash cam video,
you can hear her children yelling for the officer to leave their mom alone and get off of her.

At one point Ferrell's 14-year-old son gets out of the minivan and starts walking towards the officer, but the boy thinks better of it after the officer draws his Taser and points it at the boy. He gets back in the van while the officer continues his struggle to get Ferrell out of the minivan."Look, I'm going to ask you one more time to get out of the vehicle and then I'm going to pull you out, OK?" the officer said. "You're already facing evading charges. You ran away from me.""Sir, I pulled back over, I didn't run away," Ferrell responded. "You see my children. I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm just trying to take them to the Rio Grande."

Finally, Ferrell agrees toget out and talk with the officer behind the minivan. The conversation
doesn't last long. When the officer tells her to turn around, Ferrell bolts back towards her minivan. The officer grabs her and a struggle ensues.That's when her 14-year-old son gets out of the car again and rushes the officer.

The boy and the cop have a short tussle. The officer draws his Taser again while the boy runs back into the minivan and closes the door.As backup officers pull up, the officer pulls out his baton and smashes one of the rear windows as the family screams
again. The minivan speeds off while another officer fires what appears to be three shots at the fleeing vehicle.Ferrell leads State Police on a high-speed chase into Taos before giving herself up in front of a hotel.

Ferrell and her 14-year-old son are both arrested. The mother gets child abuse and fleeing charges as well as a misdemeanor for possession of drug paraphernalia. The Taos News reports that State Police claim they found two marijuana pipes in the minivan. Her son is charged with battery of an officer.The family is reportedly from Memphis and was visiting New Mexico on an educational trip.

State Police are not releasing the names of the officers involved but say
they are both under investigation for the incident.
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Old 11-18-2013, 05:55 PM   #31
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The kid is watching his idiot mother get grabbed by the cops. He is young and reacting to help her out. Easy with the internet trash talk there tough guy.
So that makes him not an idiot?

Look at that kid puffing his chest out and tossing his cap like he's getting into a bar fight.

That kid's dumb as a hammer and if it wasn't this incident that put him in jail, he had one coming within the next few years. This wasn't some gentle lamb going to defend him mom, that kid was looking to rumble with a damn cop. If he doesn't get in the middle of it, his mom ends up with a simple obstruction charge and maybe the cop even lets he go; unlikely, but possible.

Until he decided it was time to be billy badass.

I repeat - he's extremely lucky he didn't get shot.
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Old 11-18-2013, 05:56 PM   #32
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The kid is watching his idiot mother get grabbed by the cops. He is young and reacting to help her out. Easy with the internet trash talk there tough guy.
So you're advocating assaulting cops just because they're trying to make an arrest?
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Old 11-18-2013, 05:58 PM   #33
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Old 11-18-2013, 06:06 PM   #34
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So that makes him not an idiot?

Look at that kid puffing his chest out and tossing his cap like he's getting into a bar fight.

That kid's dumb as a hammer and if it wasn't this incident that put him in jail, he had one coming within the next few years. This wasn't some gentle lamb going to defend him mom, that kid was looking to rumble with a damn cop. If he doesn't get in the middle of it, his mom ends up with a simple obstruction charge and maybe the cop even lets he go; unlikely, but possible.

Until he decided it was time to be billy badass.

I repeat - he's extremely lucky he didn't get shot.
Yeah, he's dumb. I'm not defending his actions. But I hardly hold a 14 year old to the same standards as a cop and a mother. He is lucky the trigger happy cops didn't kill him.

If I saw my mom getting man handled by the police I would be very tempted to step in and put a stop to it using aggression. Of course my mom isn't dumb enough to try and fight the cops over a speeding ticket.
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Old 11-18-2013, 06:08 PM   #35
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Yeah, he's dumb. I'm not defending his actions. But I hardly hold a 14 year old to the same standards as a cop and a mother. He is lucky the trigger happy cops didn't kill him.

If I saw my mom getting man handled by the police I would be very tempted to step in and put a stop to it using aggression. Of course my mom isn't dumb enough to try and fight the cops over a speeding ticket.
That's fair.

But to say he's the only one in the video that's not an idiot (which I disagree with; only one of those cops behaved poorly) is giving him a complete pass.

One can be young and an idiot. This kid qualifies.
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So you're advocating assaulting cops just because they're trying to make an arrest?
Oh no. Just saying trying to defend your mom makes sense for a young kid. Not the right thing to do here by any means, but at least somewhat understandable. Don't get me wrong, he made things worse, but he's just a kid.
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Oh no. Just saying trying to defend your mom makes sense for a young kid. Not the right thing to do here by any means, but at least somewhat understandable. Don't get me wrong, he made things worse, but he's just a kid.
Yeah, if I was the prosecutor I'd probably go a little lighter on him due to his age. What he did was dumb, but this is a case where a reasonable fourteen year-old might use poor judgment. However, whatever I take off of his sentence I'd add to the mother's sentence because she's an absolute moron. She put her son in that situation by having the IQ of a semi-rotten kumquat.

And I'm curious. I just now watched the video. We see the one cop shooting from the rear, but it looks like the cop on the right (out in the weeds) also pulls his gun. Based on the report it appears that he was smart enough to not shoot, but I thought it was interesting.

I mean, really, people. Just pay the ticket or fight it in court. This is how people get killed and/or go to prison. It's a speeding ticket.
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I mean, really, people. Just pay the ticket or fight it in court. This is how people get killed and/or go to prison. It's a speeding ticket.
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