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Old 11-16-2013, 05:21 PM  
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If I had to pick a QB in this class who I would like to see us go after, he would be my man. I would not be upset if we got him...

[I'd rather develop Bray]


But is he just a product of the Baylor Offense? He has the arm and high football IQ that you are looking for...
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Old 11-20-2013, 12:12 AM   #31
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I reemember one time I said, "man I like this russell wilson kid a lot, let's take him in the third round," and everyone was all, "that's too early, you can get him in the fifth but its a wasted pick because he's super short and will never make it." And I was all, "yeah but he plays behind the biggest line in college at wisconsin," and everyone was all, "too short!" Tell me sacc, where did you stand on russell wilson?
I was in that too short crowd.

I was all about drafting Ryan Tannehill/Kirk Cousins in that draft and taking a shot on EJ Manuel last year.

Oh how I would love to be eating some crow when it came to guys like Russell Wilson and Nick Foles. But **** no, I'm stuck here watching guys like Fisher get schooled a handful of times a game and yet another underwhelming 49ers scrap yard QB.
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Old 11-20-2013, 12:51 AM   #32
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I was in that too short crowd.

I was all about drafting Ryan Tannehill/Kirk Cousins in that draft and taking a shot on EJ Manuel last year.

Oh how I would love to be eating some crow when it came to guys like Russell Wilson and Nick Foles. But **** no, I'm stuck here watching guys like Fisher get schooled a handful of times a game and yet another underwhelming 49ers scrap yard QB.
Or you could be watching the Chiefs go 9-1 so far this season...

I guess it's all in the individuals perspective.
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Old 11-20-2013, 01:32 AM   #33
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Or you could be watching the Chiefs go 9-1 so far this season...

I guess it's all in the individuals perspective.
If only I was simple minded enough to focus on a number.

Must be nice.
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Old 11-20-2013, 07:54 AM   #34
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Or you could be watching the Chiefs go 9-1 so far this season...

I guess it's all in the individuals perspective.
Good thing we took Fisher. Otherwise, we wouldn't be 9-1.
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:53 AM   #35
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I was in that too short crowd.

I was all about drafting Ryan Tannehill/Kirk Cousins in that draft and taking a shot on EJ Manuel last year.

Oh how I would love to be eating some crow when it came to guys like Russell Wilson and Nick Foles. But **** no, I'm stuck here watching guys like Fisher get schooled a handful of times a game and yet another underwhelming 49ers scrap yard QB.
Yea I was not on the Foles bandwagon. But if he was owning fools for the Chiefs I would happily eat as much crow as the football gods see fit. I feel your pain, man. I truly do.
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Old 11-20-2013, 11:48 AM   #36
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Bray is a four year project.

The guy hasn't seen the field his rookie season and deservedly so.

So how can anyone state that "Bray isn't enough."? You can't, because you don't know.
I also don't know if I'm going to win the lottery or not.

Just to be safe, I probably shouldn't build up a retirement account. That would be foolish and a waste of funds that I could be putting to better use right now.
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Old 11-20-2013, 11:51 AM   #37
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Alex Smith's contract is up after the 2014 season, Sac. What if he wants more money than we're willing to pay? What's your answer? What do we do?
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Old 11-20-2013, 12:16 PM   #38
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Alex Smith's contract is up after the 2014 season, Sac. What if he wants more money than we're willing to pay? What's your answer? What do we do?
We have Daniel signed through 2015 so it's all good.
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We have Daniel signed through 2015 so it's all good.
I just threw up a little...
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It's quite simple, and I don't understand what Sac has against cutting Buttchin loose next season, drafting a QB we like, and then letting he and Bray duke it out behind Smith.
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Old 11-20-2013, 01:07 PM   #41
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It's quite simple, and I don't understand what Sac has against cutting Buttchin loose next season, drafting a QB we like, and then letting he and Bray duke it out behind Smith.
I'm down.


I'm also not smart enough to understand what kind of a cap hit we would take next season if we cut Booger loose...

So there's that.
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Old 11-20-2013, 01:10 PM   #42
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I'm down.


I'm also not smart enough to understand what kind of a cap hit we would take next season if we cut Booger loose...

So there's that.
Basically nothing. We might even save money on the cap.
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Old 11-20-2013, 01:15 PM   #43
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Actually, scratch that. I'm wrong. I thought it was a front-loaded deal.

It's 3 years, $10 million, with $3 million signing bonus and $4.8 guaranteed. His salary number for 2013 was only $800,000, so we'd end up eating some dead space if we cut him next year.

**** you, Dorsey.

The other interesting thing about it, though, is there's a clause that makes the contract void if he throws for 2000 yards in a season, basically putting in a clause that he's accepting this money as a backup QB, but if the time ever comes where he's not just holding a clipboard on Sundays, he's going to get paid starters money.
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Old 11-20-2013, 03:36 PM   #44
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It's 3 years, $10 million, with $3 million signing bonus and $4.8 guaranteed. His salary number for 2013 was only $800,000, so we'd end up eating some dead space if we cut him next year.

**** you, Dorsey.
JFC.

I didn't think he got that much guaranteed money.

Way to go Dorsey. 9 career passes nets you $5 million to hold a clipboard.

Meanwhile, in GB, Matt Flynn re-signs on a 1 year $715k deal to be a backup.
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:56 PM   #45
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Yeah...Russell Wilson. Because there's guys like that in every draft. Joe Montana, Tom Brady...guys like that.

And of course Bray hasn't shown dick. When did you think that was going to happen? Last week? This week?

Totally serious.

Name the "Russell Wilson" in this draft. Name a guy in this draft who is going to beat out anyone on this roster.

I'll help you with it - there isn't one.
So you believe that there will not be a single starting caliber QB from the 2014 draft?

Because Daniel isn't one. So if there's nobody from this draft that's good enough to beat out Daniel, you're saying that there's nobody from this draft that is going to be good enough to start for a credible NFL football team.

Yeah, I'll take that bet. I've not followed the position nearly as closely as last years, but there's no doubt in my mind that there's a starter in this draft. There's a starter in every draft.

Even if there isn't a Luck, there's a Glennon or Foles. There's a guy that will succeed in the right spot and there's no reason that spot can't be here.

If Bray has shown anything this year, I'd cut Daniel and let those two fight for the #2 job. If he hasn't, I'd cut Bray and replace him. You should know after having a guy in the system for a year if he's good enough to bother trying to develop.

The Chiefs should absolutely explore the possibility of adding a QB in this draft.
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