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Old 11-26-2013, 11:22 AM  
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Iran calls out Obama's lies. That didn't take long...

TEHRAN (FNA) – The Iranian Foreign Ministry on Tuesday called invalid a press release by the White House alleged to be the text of the nuclear agreement struck by Iran and the Group 5+1 (the US, Russia, China, Britain and France plus Germany) in Geneva on Sunday.

“What has been released by the website of the White House as a fact sheet is a one-sided interpretation of the agreed text in Geneva and some of the explanations and words in the sheet contradict the text of the Joint Plan of Action (the title of the Iran-powers deal), and this fact sheet has unfortunately been translated and released in the name of the Geneva agreement by certain media, which is not true,” Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Marziyeh Afkham said on Tuesday.

She said that the four-page text under the name of the Joint Plan of Action (which has been released by the Iranian foreign ministry) was the result of the agreement reached during the Geneva talks and all of its sentences and words were chosen based on the considerations of all parties to the talks. In fact one of the reasons why negotiations between Iran and the G5+1 took so long pertained to the accuracy which was needed for choosing the words for the text of the agreement, Afkham said, explaining that the Iranian delegation was much rigid and laid much emphasis on the need for this accuracy.

Afkham said that the text of the Joint Plan of Action was provided to the media a few hours after the two sides agreed on it.

After the White House released a modified version of the deal struck by Iran and the six world powers in Geneva early Sunday morning, the Iranian Foreign Ministry released the text of the agreement.

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Old 11-26-2013, 04:40 PM   #16
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The Fars News Agency (FNA) is a news agency in Iran.
While it describes itself as "Iran's leading independent news agency", news organizations such as CNN and Reuters describe it as a "semi-official" news agency with ties to the government. The Wall Street Journal has stated the agency is affiliated with the Revolutionary Guard Corps.
Sounds pretty much like our news, including, affiliations with the military industrial complex at least with one network.Ya' know our gatekeepers, most of which are owned by a few. The few connected to govt power.

There's some massive projection going on.
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:40 PM   #17
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What did he do now?
The White House released a fact-sheet summary and Iran says they lied because it is not the full text? That's what this is about?
Anyone?
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:42 PM   #18
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Lying through omission, is still lying. Particularly, if it puts the situation in a false light with those omissions.
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:44 PM   #19
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Here you go, cosmo:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...ublic-iran-s-n
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:48 PM   #20
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It clearly says, "Fact sheet" and isn't represented as the entire and complete text of the agreement.

I did look for the offending document earlier and saw this on the WH website but assumed this couldn't possibly be the issue.

Do you think this qualifies some sort of lie?
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Old 11-26-2013, 05:04 PM   #21
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It clearly says, "Fact sheet" and isn't represented as the entire and complete text of the agreement.

I did look for the offending document earlier and saw this on the WH website but assumed this couldn't possibly be the issue.

Do you think this qualifies some sort of lie?
Well, let's look:

WH claims, "Halt all enrichment above 5% and dismantle the technical connections required to enrich above 5%." I don't see that anywhere in the text of the plan.

WH claims, "Not increase its stockpile of 3.5% low enriched uranium, so that the amount is not greater at the end of the six months than it is at the beginning, and any newly enriched 3.5% enriched uranium is converted into oxide." Don't see that.

Other than those, I really don't see much to bitch about. Of course, the WH fact sheet is spun as a win for Obama, so that's probably what the Iranians don't like.
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Old 11-26-2013, 05:15 PM   #22
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Looking at it more closely, I'd imagine that the "lie" is that the WH doesn't come out and say, "Iran can go ahead and keep enriching/has a right to keep enriching." It obviously isn't in the WH text overtly, but it's clear that is part of the deal.
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Old 11-26-2013, 05:51 PM   #23
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Iran’s right to enrich uranium is fully recognized under the draft released by Tehran.

“This comprehensive solution would enable Iran to fully enjoy its right to nuclear energy for peaceful purposes under the relevant articles of the NPT in conformity with its obligations therein,” the agreement reads, according to a copy released to Iranian state-run media.
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:01 PM   #24
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IAEA recognizes the right to enrich uranium by all nations to my knowledge.
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Cosmo eats it. Period.
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:04 PM   #26
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Well ya,we all know that. But does he like it? Thats the question
IMO the answer is yes.
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IAEA recognizes the right to enrich uranium by all nations to my knowledge.
Your knowledge is wrong. Signatories of the NPT have the right to enrich uranium as long as the comply with NPT safeguards, namely proving that their activity is peaceful.
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:36 PM   #28
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Uh, no.
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