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Old 12-15-2013, 07:02 PM  
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Jamaal Charles Vs Adrian Peterson.

Here is how Charles compares through week 15 than AP did in 2012 when he won the MVP .

Total Yards: Charles - 1,836. Peterson - 2,023

Yards Per Play: Charles - 5.9. Peterson - 6.2

Touchdowns: Charles - 18. Peterson - 11

Team Record: Charles - 11-3. Peterson - 8-8
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Old 12-16-2013, 05:03 PM   #31
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Take Manning off of Denver and they are a grease fire.


Take Jamaal off of the Chiefs and we are still a very good team.
I wish I could agree with that second part.
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Old 12-16-2013, 05:08 PM   #32
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Take Manning off of Denver and they are a grease fire.


Take Jamaal off of the Chiefs and we are still a very good team.
Do you really think so? The Broncos have a solid 1-2 at receiver, one of the best slot receivers in the game, a stud at tight end, and Moreno and Ball are actually having decent seasons. Their defense would probably improve because the offense would be playing a lot less hurry up.

You can't ask how the team would look with Brady Quinn starting over Peyton. The better question is how could non-MVPs like Flacco or Stafford do? How would Matt Ryan or Eli do? I think there are plenty of NFL QBs who would make the Broncos a playoff team. So I disagree that they're a dumpster fire without Peyton.
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Old 12-16-2013, 05:12 PM   #33
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Do you really think so? The Broncos have a solid 1-2 at receiver, one of the best slot receivers in the game, a stud at tight end, and Moreno and Ball are actually having decent seasons. Their defense would probably improve because the offense would be playing a lot less hurry up.

You can't ask how the team would look with Brady Quinn starting over Peyton. The better question is how could non-MVPs like Flacco or Stafford do? How would Matt Ryan or Eli do? I think there are plenty of NFL QBs who would make the Broncos a playoff team. So I disagree that they're a dumpster fire without Peyton.
They have some nice weapons in Demaryius Thomas, Julius Thomas, and Wes Welker as well as a strong interior line.

Take Manning off that team and the pass blocking efficiency of that line, particularly in tackle play, goes down tremendously, in my opinion. A bit of a snow ball effect would ensue spilling over into the run game as well- it just wouldn't be as effective without Manning's presence.

The defense is just burnt ass and ball hair, honestly. It's bad. Really bad.
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Old 12-16-2013, 05:13 PM   #34
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ya, I think you got it wrong -- AP is in Jamaal's class... kind of. Jamaal did his damage with very shitty OL's. AP always had top grade blocking to run with.
What? AP is the standard that all backs are measured against right now. You need to watch a few AP videos on YouTube. He is greatness. JC is getting there.
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Old 12-16-2013, 06:06 PM   #35
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What? AP is the standard that all backs are measured against right now. You need to watch a few AP videos on YouTube. He is greatness. JC is getting there.
ap doesn't catch passes. One trick pony.
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Old 12-16-2013, 06:27 PM   #36
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ap doesn't catch passes. One trick pony.
He does catch passes but he is not in a Reid offense that throws them fifty yards down the field because his wr suck. Ours suck so we need JC to help in the passing game as well.
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Old 12-16-2013, 07:17 PM   #37
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Charles' YPC puts him above AP IMO.
Peterson has more power....... That's it.
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He does catch passes but he is not in a Reid offense that throws them fifty yards down the field because his wr suck. Ours suck so we need JC to help in the passing game as well.
Even when he wasn't in the Reid offense Charles was a much better receiver than AP.

And it's not like Vikings have had some great WRs during APs career.
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