The Long, Slow, Arduous Bataan Death March To Drafting OL On May 8th

[kcchiefsus]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I liked Geno Smith and Mark Sanchez.

I am basically Rex Ryan.

So you have a foot fetish?

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I'll say this: I see McCarron as more than a game-manager. But I liked Geno Smith, so wtf do I know, right?

After that egg he laid against Oklahoma, I could see him being available in the 5th.

[McBeard]

No worries, most Chiefs fans were desperate and for good reason. The QB situation worked out for the best.

[Direckshun]

OL the Chiefs could potentially, inevitably draft at 23, depending on where things are in 5 months:

OT Greg Robinson, Auburn
OT Taylor Lewan, Michigan
OT Cameron Erving, Florida State
OT Antonio Richardson, Tennessee
OT/G La'el Collins, LSU
OT/G Zack Martin, Notre Dame
OT Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama
OG Gabe Jackson, Mississippi State
OG Cyril Richardson, Baylor
OT David Yankey, Stanford
OT Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M
OG Xavier Su'a-Filo, UCLA

I will run mini-scouting reports on these guys over the next five months in this sad, miserable thread, plus any guys who also drift onto the radar.

If there are any others you'd add, feel free to.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

OL the Chiefs could potentially, inevitably draft at 23, depending on where things are in 5 months:

OT Greg Robinson, Auburn
OT Taylor Lewan, Michigan
OT Cameron Erving, Florida State
OT Antonio Richardson, Tennessee
OT/G La'el Collins, LSU
OT/G Zack Martin, Notre Dame
OT Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama
OG Gabe Jackson, Mississippi State
OG Cyril Richardson, Baylor
OT David Yankey, Stanford
OT Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M
OG Xavier Su'a-Filo, UCLA

I will run mini-scouting reports on these guys over the next five months in this sad, miserable thread, plus any guys who also drift onto the radar.

If there are any others you'd add, feel free to.

I'll give you a scouting report...

Gabe Jackson. Destroyer of Worlds. Three time SEC lineman of the week in 2013. He was ****ing dudes up all season long. The guy is as nasty and powerful as you'll see in an offensive guard.

I watched Yankey several times and he's nowhere close to Jackson. I don't think Baylor's Richardson is either.

[McBeard]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

If there are any others you'd add, feel free to.

Travis Swanson, C, Arkansas would be worth adding. He's a mauler at 6'5" and 315 lbs. He is Andy Reid's kind of center and if Dorsey stays true to BPA he could be the guy.

[Saccopoo]

Say it with me...GABE JACKSON!

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos...s-Gabe-Jackson

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Say it with me...GABE JACKSON!

I turned off the LSU vid halfway through.




That's fantasy. No way Gabe Jackson, the year after 2 guards were selected in the top 10 falls to KC.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Sorter

I turned off the LSU vid halfway through.

That's fantasy. No way Gabe Jackson, the year after 2 guards were selected in the top 10 falls to KC.

Pretty impressive what he does to the defensive lines of both Alabama and LSU, isn't it?

He was my fav this year, so I made it a point to watch him a lot and I can't remember a recent college lineman that was so dominating in terms of his power and ability to just stonewall dudes.

Reid loves him some power guys and the Chiefs have struggled in terms of Red Zone run blocking (though Schwartz helped when he was inserted into the lineup).

There isn't a better lineman in the draft that's better for a power scheme than Gabe Jackson. His main criticism by the draftniks is that he hasn't shown the high level athleticism, but if you watch him, he gets to the second level just fine. It's really that he's just so ****ing huge and strong and can simply destroy one or more guys right at the point of attack that he doesn't need to get out and pull/stunt all the time. He's not fat at all, and has a huge, huge base.

He's a big, big man.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by Sorter

I turned off the LSU vid halfway through.




That's fantasy. No way Gabe Jackson, the year after 2 guards were selected in the top 10 falls to KC.

Unfortunately, I agree. Due to the rookie cap, teams really do go with BPA now regardless of position (outside of K and P that is).

[Direckshun]

OT Greg Robinson, Auburn



I really don't want the Chiefs to draft OL in the first round, but I sure do love Greg Robinson.

Greg Robinson, on paper, is a Brandon Albert clone. He's 6'4", 320 lbs. Strong as a goddamn bull. Physically perfect for Reid's preference of bigger, more powerful OL.

He's said to be incredibly athletic, but I watch him on tape and I see "great athleticism" for a RT, maybe. Don't get me wrong, he can get downfield and move if he has to, but he's not the perfectly fluid athlete that Eric Fisher is. He's about on par with Donald Stephenson there.

What sets him apart, and will probably attract the attention of Dorsey, is his fantastic run blocking. He is a pure road grader, and looks like an All Pro RT in the above game against Missouri (Auburn rushed for ~450 yards on Mizzou). He has an unreal first punch that knocks defenders off their feet, and he can get push against defensive tackles like they're nothing. Due to this fact alone, he has better versatility to play guard than either Fisher and Stephenson.

What's really going to determine if he slides down towards the bottom of the 1st or if he goes in the Top 10 is going to be his passblocking. To me, he looks like he'll become above average at passblocking in the NFL. The skillset is there: he can mirror decently, drive a passrusher way outside of the QB, but he does look like that will be a work in progress in order to get him there, much like Albert.

Projection for Robinson: I think Robinson will go Top 15. Teams in the Top 10 need QBs more than they need LTs, but by the time the teams in 11-20 roll around, the need for LTs skyrockets. You're basically drafting Brandon Albert.

Projected Chiefs interest @ 23: Through the roof. This is the physical beast that Andy Reid wants to beat up DLs with. He'd be a high trade-up suspect in my eyes for the Chiefs, if it weren't for the Chiefs simply not having much ammunition to do so, and drafting a tackle last year #1 overall. But if he fell to 23, he's a Chief. No doubt in my mind. And while that would depress the hell out of me, it'd be intriguing to see how Robinson fares against Stephenson and Fisher to compete for a starting spot in 2014.

[Direckshun]

OT Taylor Lewan, Michigan



Taylor Lewan has a ton of potential. To drop in the Draft, that is.

I just never got the hype with this guy. This is somebody everybody had flagged a potential Top 10 guy, but all I see is a dirty, unathletic, and sure-to-be physically overmatched tackle in the NFL. He isn't even a technician. What do people see in the guy?

Well, he's 6'8", but he lumbers like a brontosaurus. He's not going to be the guy you send to the next level to take out Vontaze Burfict or Derrick Johnson. He's just the guy you can sort of trust at right tackle with minimal double team help.

He's also a three-year starter at LT in the Big 10, and that is legitimately saying something. I'd probably take him in the 2nd round if I was hurting for tackle help, maybe. He did turn in nice performances against the Irish and Gamecocks, this year, going up against some of the most lethal passrushers college football has to offer. But the Irish royally kicked his ass last year, and Lewan didn't seem to have a prayer when Clowney kicked it into gear for the passrush.

He's just one of those guys with good size, but unless he's just super athletic in shorts at the Combine, he's going to drop as more athletic guys attract more attention. He's also a bit dirty, which I don't mind too much in my OL; I like a nasty attitude. But with all these knocks on him, he's still going to require work on his technique, even after three years at LT.

Projection for Lewan: I go against the popular opinion here, because I just can't get excited about Lewan. I think he's put up really good "sacks allowed" stats because he's gone up largely against soft competition. I think he's a prime candidate to fall to the 2nd round.

Projected Chiefs interest @ 23: Pretty close to zero, even if they do likely disagree with me and think of Lewan as prime NFL talent. Dorsey's lone draft in KC has shown an affinity primarily for pure athletic ability that can be coached up, and Lewan hasn't shown, to me, a ton of either. And I think the Chiefs are preferring bigger OL, but even at 6'8", Lewan just doesn't look the part to me.

[McBeard]

I was impressed with Lewan against Ohio State. He really seems to have a knack for getting out in front of the running back on running plays. He reminded me of when Albert played guard at Virginia. He definitely gets way down field and bulldozes people but I really haven't seen a lot of him. I like the nasty attitude for sure.

[OldSchool]

Robinson looks like a monster on the field.