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Old 01-15-2014, 12:04 PM  
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First time since 2011 a $1 trillion dollar appropriations bill

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/15/op...=1420088400000


The last time Congress approved a series of spending bills to pay for the government ó its most basic job ó was in 2011. Since then, Republican lawmakers, determined to thwart the Obama administration at every step, have forced the government to subsist on stopgap measures that simply carry over or cut previous spending, with no accounting for growth, inflation or changing priorities.

Thatís about to change this week, in one of the few pieces of good news to emerge from the current Congress. Assuming hard-right members of the House donít manage to block it, a $1 trillion appropriations bill is about to be approved by both chambers for the rest of the 2014 fiscal year, through the end of September. That means some of the most important domestic programs, starved for cash by budget caps and the sequester, will finally get much of the money they need.

Republican moderates, politically burned by the government shutdown last fall, joined Democrats in fending off almost all of the Tea Partyís demands. Right-wing Republicans failed to prevent any money from being spent on implementing the health care law, or enforcing power-plant regulations, or reforming financial practices under the Dodd-Frank law.

While the bill still reflects many Republican priorities, most of the worst proposals are gone. So are the deepest cuts of the sequester, following the budget agreement reached last month. Head Start would get $612 million more than last year, enough to restore the 57,000 slots that were cut by the sequester. The bill creates a new $250 million grant program that would encourage states to build or expand high-quality preschool classes for poor families. There would also be significant increases for health agencies whose research budgets had been cut: $1 billion more for the National Institutes of Health, $567 million more for the Centers for Disease Control, and $91 million for the Food and Drug Administration. NASA gets a boost over last yearís amount, and the administrationís transportation grant program for the states, intended to create jobs and rebuild infrastructure, won $600 million, more than the White House requested.

Republicans did win some victories. The financial regulators, including the Commodity Futures Trading Commission and the Securities and Exchange Commission, received far less money than they need to do their jobs rigorously, and there was an unnecessary cut to a fund for disease prevention and public health. There will not be enough money for the United States to fulfill its pledges to the International Monetary Fund. One terrible environmental rider was included, a gift to the coal industry that allows continued dumping of toxic coal-mining waste in streams. Also included is the ridiculous provision that prevents enforcement of new light-bulb standards, a triumph for those who consider incandescent lights a symbol of freedom.

The right-wingís larger victory is in the overall spending amount, which is far less than it should be to revive the economy. In 2008, discretionary spending under President George W. Bush was $1.176 trillion. That amount should have gone up in the following six years to reflect growth and inflation, paid for with new tax revenues. Instead it has fallen sharply to $1.012 trillion. The spending bill is better than a stopgap measure, but it is nowhere near sufficient to pay for the necessary investments in education and infrastructure that the country needs.
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Old 01-16-2014, 07:08 AM   #16
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I just want to know how school lunches play into all of this.

/patteeu
We have to find a way to pay for feeding kids first.

It's not like Wars... those pay for themselves.

Can't you see the difference, or is this going over your head?
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Old 01-16-2014, 01:50 PM   #17
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Democrats: "The republicans didn't blindly accept every single stupid idea we came up with, therefore obstructionist."

I hate republicans too, but this is what it looks like to me.
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Old 01-16-2014, 02:01 PM   #18
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Democrats: "The republicans didn't blindly accept every single stupid idea we came up with, therefore obstructionist."

I hate republicans too, but this is what it looks like to me.
The democrats are pretty proud of their stupid ideas.
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Old 01-16-2014, 02:37 PM   #19
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Kind of weird to me that we are talking about billions, and SNAP gets attacked when it's still well under $100 MIL even after substantial recent increases:

As far as spending goes I really don’t get all worked up on what it costs to feed Women and Children and think there are other places to cut first but, you might want to look at your chart again. That is 70 some BILLION not million. Kind of a big differeance.

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Old 01-17-2014, 01:14 PM   #20
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As far as spending goes I really donít get all worked up on what it costs to feed Women and Children and think there are other places to cut first but, you might want to look at your chart again. That is 70 some BILLION not million. Kind of a big differeance.
Someone struggled in his fun with numbers class.
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Old 01-17-2014, 01:22 PM   #21
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As far as spending goes I really donít get all worked up on what it costs to feed Women and Children and think there are other places to cut first but, you might want to look at your chart again. That is 70 some BILLION not million. Kind of a big differeance.
Don't bother with silly details like facts, or ability to read.
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Old 01-17-2014, 03:33 PM   #22
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Democrats: "The republicans didn't blindly accept every single stupid idea we came up with, therefore obstructionist."

I hate republicans too, but this is what it looks like to me.
"They didn't give us what we want therefore they hate the poor."
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Old 01-17-2014, 03:38 PM   #23
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"They didn't give us what we want therefore they hate the poor."
It would have been more fun to ask if they would support changing the amount to 40 Billion
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