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Old 01-24-2014, 12:39 AM  
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Rand Paul Is the 2016 Republican Frontrunner

Don't laugh. He has built-in advantages in Iowa and New Hampshire, a party moving in his direction, and formidable fundraising potential.
  • All along, the theory behind Christie's candidacy was that he could overcome his lack of conservative bona fides with a combination of personality, competence, electability, and money. Bridgegate undermines all four.
  • So if Christie is no longer the candidate to beat in the 2016 Republican race, who is? Believe it or not, it’s Rand Paul.
  • Bush used the political network his father built, he enjoyed many of the benefits of someone who had run before. It’s the same with Paul. In both Iowa and New Hampshire, he begins with an unparalleled infrastructure left over from his father Ron Paul’s 2008 and 2012 campaigns.
  • “Rand has a much broader appeal than his father,” Robinson says. Polls reflect that: A survey last December for the Des Moines Register found Paul with a lower unfavorability rating among Iowa Republicans than either Christie or Jeb Bush.
  • If Paul is, arguably, the early leader in Iowa, he may be the early frontrunner in New Hampshire as well. While Ron Paul placed third in Iowa in 2012, he placed second in New Hampshire, losing only to Mitt Romney
  • “If you whited out his name, and looked at his numbers,” Scala says of Paul, “you’d think he was a strong mainstream candidate.”
  • Paul looks like a better bet than anyone else to finish in the top two in both Iowa and New Hampshire. If he did, he’d establish himself as the leading anti-establishment candidate in the GOP field.
  • Of course, the more early success Paul enjoyed, the more fervently some GOP elites—unnerved by his anti-interventionist foreign-policy views and potential weakness in a general election—would rally around someone else. Such efforts have worked in the past.
  • Paul will never be the darling of the GOP establishment. But Republican elites may have a difficult time in forging a unified front against him.
  • If there’s one thing that could obviate all this, it’s the possibility that Paul could suffer his own candidacy-crippling scandal.
  • But even taking that possibility into account, Paul is in a stronger position than many in the media recognize. On issues from NSA surveillance to drug legalization to gay marriage, the GOP is moving in his direction. For his part, Paul is gaining acceptance within the Republican mainstream.
  • There’s no way of knowing at this point, of course. But political commentators are making a big mistake if they disregard the chance.

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Old 01-24-2014, 01:03 AM   #2
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Well, I don't like Paul's ideas. But I do think it'd be interesting.
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Old 01-24-2014, 07:50 AM   #3
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zero viability in a general election.

he's also turned into an open borders, amnesty nut from what I've read.
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Old 01-24-2014, 08:16 AM   #4
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Who would have guessed this would be a thread ?
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Old 01-24-2014, 08:24 AM   #5
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I like Paul. He isn't the perfect candidate but I think he could begin moving the country in the right direction and start undoing some of the stuff the past couple of administrations have done. Hopefully, on civil liberties that Bush and Obama have violated and continue to violate.
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Old 01-24-2014, 08:26 AM   #6
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Paul would get shellacked in a general election. I hope the gop does nominate him.

The current best chance the gop has for the presidency is Walker.
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Old 01-24-2014, 08:42 AM   #7
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zero viability in a general election.

he's also turned into an open borders, amnesty nut from what I've read.
I think any R will have the advantage of riding the anti-Obama winds--just as Obama had the advantage of the anti-Bush winds.

I say his biggest advantage is a general election is that he's not as pro-war as the other Rs. That hits where most Americans are at.

All that being said, I'd like to keep him, as well as Cruz, in the Senate.
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Old 01-24-2014, 08:47 AM   #9
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Don't laugh. He has built-in advantages in Iowa and New Hampshire, a party moving in his direction, and formidable fundraising potential.
There's a nasty undercurrent going on in Iowa. I got wind of it by a Fox reporter who is nothing but an Establishment dude. He was complaining about how the Ron Paul types got key positions in the R party of Iowa and gained control. But he also said something is being done to change that by the Establishment wing of the party. The Rovians and Boehners for instance. Gov Branstad is behind trying to dismantle their control. Don't be surprised when they pull out the stops and the nasty corruption rears its head in the GOP over this. This is the Progressive wing of the party.
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Old 01-24-2014, 09:36 AM   #10
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I've already accepted that it will be Jeb Bush as the Republican in 2016.

Because it will.
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Old 01-24-2014, 09:53 AM   #11
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I've already accepted that it will be Jeb Bush as the Republican in 2016.

Because it will.
In 2012 election exit polls, a majority of Americans still blamed W more than Obama for the recession, 50-40% or something like that. I highly doubt they'll be ready to forgive any decade soon.
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Old 01-24-2014, 09:56 AM   #12
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Well, that would be one way to ensure a Dem win in 2016...
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There's a nasty undercurrent going on in Iowa. I got wind of it by a Fox reporter who is nothing but an Establishment dude. He was complaining about how the Ron Paul types got key positions in the R party of Iowa and gained control. But he also said something is being done to change that by the Establishment wing of the party. The Rovians and Boehners for instance. Gov Branstad is behind trying to dismantle their control. Don't be surprised when they pull out the stops and the nasty corruption rears its head in the GOP over this. This is the Progressive wing of the party.
Classic BEP.

Already laying the groundwork for the inevitable "Rand got screwed" narrative.
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:03 AM   #14
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Classic BEP.

Already laying the groundwork for the inevitable "Rand got screwed" narrative.
Yep
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