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Old 01-27-2014, 11:59 AM  
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Hillary Clinton: Benghazi ‘biggest’ regret

Hillary admits she lied and knew of the lie.

Hillary Clinton: Benghazi ‘biggest’ regret

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton remained vague on her 2016 ambitions Monday, but said her biggest regret while leading the department was the 2012 attacks in Benghazi.

“You make these choices based on imperfect information and you make them to — as we say — the best of your ability. But that doesn’t mean that there’s not going to be unforeseen consequences, unpredictable twists and turns,” Clinton said Monday during the National Automobile Dealers Association conference in New Orleans, according to video from CNN.

Clinton, asked if she would have any “do-overs,” replied, “Oh, sure.”

“My biggest, you know, regret is what happened in Benghazi. It was a terrible tragedy, losing four Americans two diplomats and now it’s public, so I can say two CIA operatives,” Clinton said. Blaming it on a video was the only thing we could come up with on such a short notice. I sent Susan Rice to do the Sunday news shows I'm nobody's fool.

She added that Ambassador Chris Stevens, who also died during the attack, was “one of our very best but he had to take the collateral damage for this administration” I'm sorry the others lost their lives also, I guess that makes them patriots she said laughingly.

The behavior of Clinton’s aides increasingly signals they realize Benghazi remains an issue for her. Marking a new phase in the pushback, Clinton’s adviser Philippe Reines recently appeared on CNN himself to address Benghazi following the Senate report faulting the State Department for the attack.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/0...655.html?hp=l2
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Old 01-28-2014, 09:23 AM   #76
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JFC, this isn't about lapses or misstatements.


That was about spinning the crisis for gain.

Maybe libs think 'cutting government waste' means opportunities to consolidate power.
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Old 01-28-2014, 10:38 AM   #77
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Spinning the crisis for gain, or spinning the crisis to control damage? You really think no other government has ever done anything like this? It's what every politician on earth does, constantly. I'm sure the other 20 or so embassy attacks in the last 20 years were spun as much as they could be as well. If it wasn't for conservative media, or if this had happened on a republican's watch, none of you would even remember the name Benghazi – just like you don't remember all those other attacks.

And I'm not even granting the administration 100% knew this wasn't about a video, or that the attack wasn't inspired by the video - as the New York Times investigation has called into question. But even if it was – it's still not that big a ****ing deal to non-dittoheads. You guys might want to go back to the real scandal being that we didn't strafe the crowd with a C-130, or whatever.

You get a giant rage boner over Banghazi. Bush lies about yellowcake uranium and 5000 US soldiers die – and it doesn't even move, Jerry.

You guys really don't get why anyone who's not under the spell of conservative media doesn't see why this is such a big scandal, and I guess you never will. But keep pumping this as a major campaign issue – and see where it gets you with swing voters.

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Old 01-28-2014, 10:47 AM   #78
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She and Obama must sleep good at night knowing they don't have security and safety run like He and Hillary run the foreign services.
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Old 01-28-2014, 02:32 PM   #79
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Spinning the crisis for gain, or spinning the crisis to control damage? You really think no other government has ever done anything like this? It's what every politician on earth does, constantly. I'm sure the other 20 or so embassy attacks in the last 20 years were spun as much as they could be as well. If it wasn't for conservative media, or if this had happened on a republican's watch, none of you would even remember the name Benghazi – just like you don't remember all those other attacks.

And I'm not even granting the administration 100% knew this wasn't about a video, or that the attack wasn't inspired by the video - as the New York Times investigation has called into question. But even if it was – it's still not that big a ****ing deal to non-dittoheads. You guys might want to go back to the real scandal being that we didn't strafe the crowd with a C-130, or whatever.

You get a giant rage boner over Banghazi. Bush lies about yellowcake uranium and 5000 US soldiers die – and it doesn't even move, Jerry.

You guys really don't get why anyone who's not under the spell of conservative media doesn't see why this is such a big scandal, and I guess you never will. But keep pumping this as a major campaign issue – and see where it gets you with swing voters.
I could give a shit less about either party at this point as neither is offering anything. Unless a candidate appears that peaks my interest between now and the election. I voted for anybody but last time and most likely will not even bother to vote. I might vote in the midterms. That said anyone who defends this disgraceful bullshit is a disingenuous party loyal ****head~
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Old 01-28-2014, 05:56 PM   #80
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Did you feel the same way about Iraq? What about the intelligence reports ahead of 9/11? What about the other two dozen embassy attacks since 1990 or so?

So why are you so fired up about Benghazi? There is only one logical explanation - conservative media. You wouldn't have mentioned Benghazi in the last 6 months if it wasn't for all that propaganda you doth protest too much about never watching.
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Old 01-28-2014, 06:13 PM   #81
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JFC, this isn't about lapses or misstatements.


That was about spinning the crisis for gain.

Maybe libs think 'cutting government waste' means opportunities to consolidate power.
Don't bother. He doesn't and won't get it because his political party is more important than his moral honesty.
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Old 01-28-2014, 06:27 PM   #82
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Did you feel the same way about Iraq? What about the intelligence reports ahead of 9/11? What about the other two dozen embassy attacks since 1990 or so?

So why are you so fired up about Benghazi? There is only one logical explanation - conservative media. You wouldn't have mentioned Benghazi in the last 6 months if it wasn't for all that propaganda you doth protest too much about never watching.
Typical what about this and they did that horseshit. You just cannot own the fact you're a ****ing groupie. We are talking about this and the disgraceful way it was handled. Nope not when dealing with wing nuts from either side~
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Old 01-28-2014, 08:51 PM   #83
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Throw her ass in jail.

People want "real" change....then shit like this needs to happen.

It won't though....people care more about Justin ****ing Beiber.
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Old 01-28-2014, 09:49 PM   #84
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Throw her ass in jail.

People want "real" change....then shit like this needs to happen.

It won't though....people care more about Justin ****ing Beiber.
For what?
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Spinning the crisis for gain, or spinning the crisis to control damage? You really think no other government has ever done anything like this? It's what every politician on earth does, constantly. I'm sure the other 20 or so embassy attacks in the last 20 years were spun as much as they could be as well. If it wasn't for conservative media, or if this had happened on a republican's watch, none of you would even remember the name Benghazi – just like you don't remember all those other attacks.

And I'm not even granting the administration 100% knew this wasn't about a video, or that the attack wasn't inspired by the video - as the New York Times investigation has called into question. But even if it was – it's still not that big a ****ing deal to non-dittoheads. You guys might want to go back to the real scandal being that we didn't strafe the crowd with a C-130, or whatever.

You get a giant rage boner over Banghazi. Bush lies about yellowcake uranium and 5000 US soldiers die – and it doesn't even move, Jerry.

You guys really don't get why anyone who's not under the spell of conservative media doesn't see why this is such a big scandal, and I guess you never will. But keep pumping this as a major campaign issue – and see where it gets you with swing voters.
Biggest difference depends on if you absolutely believe that the Bush Administration wanted to go to war in Iraq at all costs to honesty, or in this case if the Obama Administration absolutely wanted the narrative they spun over the truth.

Are you as convinced that the Bush admin misstatements and bad intel were knowingly and deliberately disseminated as I am that Clinton and Rice were knowing and deliberate in their actions?
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Old 01-29-2014, 12:20 AM   #87
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Biggest difference depends on if you absolutely believe that the Bush Administration wanted to go to war in Iraq at all costs to honesty, or in this case if the Obama Administration absolutely wanted the narrative they spun over the truth.

Are you as convinced that the Bush admin misstatements and bad intel were knowingly and deliberately disseminated as I am that Clinton and Rice were knowing and deliberate in their actions?
Clinton and Rice were deliberate in their actions to say the attack was motivated by the video--is that what you mean?

Surely you can't be comparing that hypothetical deliberate action with knowingly disseminated bad intel to gain support for starting a war. Surely you're not comparing and equating those two things. Are you?
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Clinton and Rice were deliberate in their actions to say the attack was motivated by the video--is that what you mean?

Surely you can't be comparing that hypothetical deliberate action with knowingly disseminated bad intel to gain support for starting a war. Surely you're not comparing and equating those two things. Are you?
Exactly what I'm doing, and your MSNBC mock outrage doesn't diminish the soundness of the comparison.

And that's not to say the gravity of each is the same. If you're convinced that the Bush Administration wanted to go to war in Iraq at all costs to honesty, that's your position. But I think you overestimate the consensus.

Some think the Bush administration was utterly venal. I know Clinton and Rice were.
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Exactly what I'm doing, and your MSNBC mock outrage doesn't diminish the soundness of the comparison.

And that's not to say the gravity of each is the same. If you're convinced that the Bush Administration wanted to go to war in Iraq at all costs to honesty, that's your position. But I think you overestimate the consensus.

Some think the Bush administration was utterly venal. I know Clinton and Rice were.
It's an absolutely absurd comparison.
Lying to go to war directly resulted in thousand killed, more injured and maimed, plus huge financial burdens.
Lying (hypothetically) about the precise motivation of the attack, after it had ended, killed no one.
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It's an absolutely absurd comparison.
Lying to go to war directly resulted in thousand killed, more injured and maimed, plus huge financial burdens.
Lying (hypothetically) about the precise motivation of the attack, after it had ended, killed no one.
Jesus go **** yourself already.

You're clearly absolutely convinced that every action of the Bush administration was a calculated lie designed to foment war at any cost.

You even take care to characterize all of the Bush administration's actions as a lie and every action of the Obama administration as a hypothetical lie.

Own it, but don't continue to pretend to be rational.

OF COURSE if your position is metaphysical truth it has immensely more gravity.

My position is all but admitted as metaphysical truth.
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