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Old 01-26-2014, 05:48 PM  
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White House warns Obama could go around Congress

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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama will work with Congress where he can and circumvent lawmakers where he must, his top advisers warned Sunday in previewing Tuesday's State of the Union speech.

Obama faces a politically divided Congress on Tuesday and will use his annual address to demand expanded economic opportunity. Absent legislative action, the White House is telling lawmakers that the president is ready to take unilateral action to close the gap between rich and poor Americans.

"I think the way we have to think about this year is we have a divided government," said Dan Pfeiffer, a longtime Obama adviser. "The Republican Congress is not going to rubber-stamp the president's agenda. The president is not going to sign the Republican Congress' agenda."

So the White House is eyeing compromise on some priorities, Obama advisers said. But the president is also looking at executive orders that can be enacted without Congress' approval.

"The president sees this as a year of action to work with Congress where he can and to bypass Congress where necessary," White House press secretary Jay Carney said.

The act-or-else posture bristled Republicans.

"The president has sort of hung out on the left and tried to get what he wants through the bureaucracy as opposed to moving to the political center," said Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the GOP Senate leader.

Added Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky.: "It sounds vaguely like a threat, and I think it also has a certain amount of arrogance."

With campaigns for November's election on the horizon, there's scant reason for the White House to be optimistic about Republican support for measures to revive a bipartisan immigration bill that has passed the Senate, an increased minimum wage or expanding prekindergarten programs.

Republicans looking to wrest control of the Senate and keep their majority in the House instead want to keep the focus on the struggling economy and Obama's stewardship of it. The GOP is pinning hopes that voter frustration remains high and punishes Democrats on the ballot for Obama's tenure.

"His economic policies are not working," said Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas.

The White House has been signaling to Republicans that it would not wait for Congress to act. It also is betting Obama's backers will rally behind his plans.

"When American jobs and livelihoods depend on getting something done, he will not wait for Congress," Pfeiffer wrote in an email to Obama supporters Saturday.

Following the speech, Obama will travel to Maryland, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Tennessee to promote the proposals he introduces Tuesday evening.

Pfeiffer appeared on CNN's "State of the Union" and "Fox News Sunday." Carney spoke with ABC's "This Week." McConnell was interviewed on Fox. Paul spoke with CNN and NBC's "Meet the Press." Cruz spoke to CBS' "Face the Nation."
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Old 01-31-2014, 03:56 PM   #166
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Executive order vs law passed by Congress is semantics? JFC...

The thread has been about Executive Orders. BEP made a specific comment and I asked her about it. You turned it into Bush vs. Obama.

You mentioned your point. What was it? If you want to point out Obama's unconstitutional EOs, then go ahead.

And the EO 13224 you mentioned was signed by Bush and it predates the Patriot Act. You're just being a complete babbling idiot.
My point was, you don't give a shit if its unconstitutional as long as your guy is doing it.

Oh, and google "executive order 13224 and the patriot act" and tell me again how it's not associated with it.
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Old 01-31-2014, 03:58 PM   #167
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BEP said Reagan's EOs were mostly administrative.
I don't read 99.6% of your posts either. Then again, I am not going to go through hundreds of EO's for a MB discussion. You not only like to steal other people's money but too much time. It was based on what I read years ago, during the Clinton use of them.
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Old 01-31-2014, 04:00 PM   #168
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Executive order vs law passed by Congress is semantics? JFC...

The thread has been about Executive Orders. BEP made a specific comment and I asked her about it. You turned it into Bush vs. Obama.

You mentioned your point. What was it? If you want to point out Obama's unconstitutional EOs, then go ahead.

And the EO 13224 you mentioned was signed by Bush and it predates the Patriot Act. You're just being a complete babbling idiot.
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Old 01-31-2014, 04:04 PM   #169
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My point was, you don't give a shit if its unconstitutional as long as your guy is doing it.

Oh, and google "executive order 13224 and the patriot act" and tell me again how it's not associated with it.
OK, so you say. Unless you give me an example, you're still just babbling.

I'm not sure why you even brought up EO 13224.
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Old 01-31-2014, 04:05 PM   #170
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I don't read 99.6% of your posts either. Then again, I am not going to go through hundreds of EO's for a MB discussion. You not only like to steal other people's money but too much time. It was based on what I read years ago, during the Clinton use of them.
I didn't really expect you to. As you often do, you're just tossing off some "fact" that you actually know nothing about.
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Old 01-31-2014, 04:06 PM   #171
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Well Putin would kick both of their asses!

What about Putin vs Chuck Norris? The universe would probably explode.
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Old 01-31-2014, 04:07 PM   #172
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Old 01-31-2014, 04:07 PM   #173
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I don't read 99.6% of your posts either. Then again, I am not going to go through hundreds of EO's for a MB discussion. You not only like to steal other people's money but too much time. It was based on what I read years ago, during the Clinton use of them.
You could save time by not making statements you have no desire to backup and even more time truly ignoring people you claim to ignore~
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Old 01-31-2014, 04:08 PM   #174
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OK, so you say. Unless you give me an example, your still just babbling.

I'm not sure why you even brought up EO 13224.
You were having a left vs right argument with BEP. I was pointing out that everyone should get over their partisan selves and be outraged at government overreach no matter what side it comes from.

I wasn't trying to argue a specific executive order, or anything of the sort, but you, as usual turned it into a ****ing semantic argument and missed the point entirely.
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Old 01-31-2014, 04:20 PM   #175
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I've seen enough movies, Chuck always wins...
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