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Old 02-19-2014, 09:39 AM  
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Debate about the use of frequent emergency alerts sent to cell phones

In an effort to get it out of the other thread, here's a new one.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:16 AM   #31
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:17 AM   #32
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Now that I got that out of the way, apparently there are some misconceptions about what the Amber Alert was designed to do. It is in place to make people aware of a situation and be on the lookout as they live their lives. While it would be fantastic if everyone in a six state area could drop what they're doing and go on a massive manhunt, that's not feasible and anyone who thinks that's what's supposed to happen is living in a fantasy world. I prefer to live in reality.

And the reality is, if you have people opting out due to excessive texts, that's one less outlet available to get the message out, and defeats the purpose. I don't think it's unreasonable to not want your personal phone that you rely on to live your life unnecessarily blown up to the point you have to consider silencing it or shutting it off.

And no one, I mean NO ONE in the other thread complained about "their favorite TV show being interrupted." But yet that was brought up by one jackass multiple times. It's a shame that you can't have a reasonable discussion about a serious issue without certain assholes blowing what one says out of proportion.

And lastly, we can take every possible extreme measure to try to prevent such tragedies from taking place, but as shown in this case, sometimes they simply can't be prevented. The human race shows its ugly side on occasion. I don't like it any more than anyone else. What's important is to not completely overreact and throw out knee-jerk solutions that will not solve the problems. No amount of Amber Alerts are going to save every child from a predator. No amount of gun control is going to stop every school shooting. Throwing people in prison for life for a DWI won't prevent idiots from getting behind the wheel drunk and killing people. It's just the sad reality of life.

I'm not saying we shouldn't do anything about such issues, but what I am saying is there are always going to be limits to the effectiveness of them and we have to be rational about how apply the systems we put in place.

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Anyway here's the flaw with Amber alerts: the girl was abducted at 4:48 the alert wasn't sent out until 7? She was most likely already dead by then. Bugeater is right they aren't going to fix this.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:18 AM   #33
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you don't know how to shut off the phone?
why do you have to shut off your phone to stop getting alerts by the minute? thats not fair to the people trying to reach you by phone.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:18 AM   #34
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Or they could just opt out, lessening the effectiveness of the system as described above.
yup, there is that too.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:21 AM   #35
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why do you have to shut off your phone to stop getting alerts by the minute? thats not fair to the people trying to reach you by phone.
TURN OFF THE GOD DAMN MESSAGES. IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:22 AM   #36
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Just opt out of the messages. You'll miss amber alerts, tornado warnings and the like; but it's pretty simple to do.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:23 AM   #37
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I turned the gubment texts off a long time ago.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:23 AM   #38
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I don't mind the alerts. I will say I got a bit desensitized to Amber Alerts in general when they were first being pushed out because the ones I heard always ended up being "family abductions".

From looking at the Amber Alert wiki, it looks like most law enforcement agencies now won't issue an Amber Alert for these, stating the requirement that the child's life must be in significant danger.

Two things I think they should do:

1. Add a picture of what the car looks like. It doesn't have to be the same car. I just don't know what every make and model of car looks like, and when I'm out in my car and get one of these texts it's not a great time to google it. I'm not even sure what color is classified as "gold". Is that the same as yellow?

2. Add picture of child and obviously any suspect if possible.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:25 AM   #39
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So you're suggesting people shut their phones off religiously every night so that they don't have to get an alert once a year or so?
If it is that infrequent why the complaints? seems like more time is spent bitching about the texts then getting/reading the texts.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:25 AM   #40
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TURN OFF THE GOD DAMN MESSAGES. IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT.
I'M NOT SURE EVERYONE IS AWARE THAT YOU CAN DO THAT. DID THAT THOUGHT EVER CROSS YOUR MIND? USE YOUR GODDAMN BRAIN, IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:26 AM   #41
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Too much data, pushing out all those photos to every cellphone in the land
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:26 AM   #42
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TURN OFF THE GOD DAMN MESSAGES. IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT.
seems like the more alerts people get they end up turning the alert feature off. I don't see how constant alerts are effective if people are turning them off. right?
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:30 AM   #43
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this is a ****ing stupid discussion.


who really gives a **** if they alert you every ****ing second if it gives even a 1% better chance of saving a child's life.


quit bitching about stupid shit
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:31 AM   #44
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I'M NOT SURE EVERYONE IS AWARE THAT YOU CAN DO THAT. DID THAT THOUGHT EVER CROSS YOUR MIND? USE YOUR GODDAMN BRAIN, IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT.
Do some research, figure out how to solve the problem if it bothers you so much and it stops you from using your phone. People will bitch about anything.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:32 AM   #45
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Just opt out of the messages. You'll miss amber alerts, tornado warnings and the like; but it's pretty simple to do.
That's what I did. I opted out of Amber Alerts and kept "Government Alerts"
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