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Old 02-20-2014, 01:39 PM  
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2014 NFL Combine - Players - The TEs

Tight Ends:

Jace Amaro, Texas Tech
6'5", 265 lb., 34" arms, 9" hands
Bench: 28

Rob Blanchflower, Massachusetts
6'4", 256 lb., 33 3/4" arms, 9 5/8" hands
Bench: DNP

Trey Burton, Florida
6'2", 224 lb., 31" arms, 9 3/8" hands
Bench: DNP

A.D. Denham, Utah
6'4", 235 lb., 33 3/8" arms, 10 1/2" hands
Bench:

Joe Don Duncan, Dixie State
6'3", 268 lb., 32 3/8" arms, 10 1/8" hands
Bench: 35

Eric Ebron, North Carolina
6'4 1/4", 250 lb., 33 1/4" arms, 10" hands
Bench: 24

C.J. Fedorowicz, Iowa
6'5", 265 lb., 33" arms, 10 1/4" hands
Bench: 25

Crockett Gillmore, Colorado State
6'6", 260 lb., 33 3/4" arms, 10 3/8" hands
Bench: DNP

Xavier Grimble, USC
6'4", 257 lb., 33 5/8" arms, 10 1/4" hands
Bench: DNP

Nic Jacobs, McNeese State
6'5", 269 lb., 34 1/8" arms, 10" hands
Bench: 15

Marcel Jensen, Fresno State
6'6", 259 lb., 34 7/8" arms, 9 7/8" hands
Bench: 24

Reggie Jordan, Missouri Western State
6'3", 240 lb., 32 1/4" arms, 9 5/8" hands
Bench: 24

A.C. Leonard, Tennessee State
6'2", 252 lb., 33" arms, 9 1/4" hands
Bench: 20

Colt Lyerla, Oregon
6'4", 242 lb., 32 3/4" arms, 10 1/4" hands
Bench: 15

Arthur Lynch, Georgia
6'5", 258 lb., 32 1/2" arms, 10 1/8" hands
Bench: 28

Jake Murphy, Utah
6'4", 249 lb., 31 3/4" arms, 10" hands
Bench: 24

Jordan Najvar, Baylor
6'6", 256 lb., 32 1/4" arms, 10" hands
Bench: 18

Troy Niklas, Notre Dame
6'6 1/2", 270 lb., 34 1/8" arms, 10" hands
Bench: 27

Jake Pedersen, Wisconsin
6'3", 239 lb., 31 3/4" arms, 9" hands
Bench: DNP

Richard Rodgers, California
6'4", 257 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 10 1/8" hands
Bench: 16

Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington
6'5 1/2", 262 lb., 33 3/4" arms, 9 3/4" hands
Bench: 20

D.J. Tialavea, Utah State
6'3", 267 lb., 33 5/8" arms, 9 1/4" hands
Bench: DNP


2013 Highest TE Draft Pick & Combine Results:

Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame
6'5", 250 lb., 33 1/8" arms, 9 1/8" hands
Bench: 22
40: 4.68 seconds
Vertical: 35.5"
Broad Jump: 119.0"
3 Cone: 6.92
20 yard shuttle: 4.32 seconds
60 yard shuttle: 11.52 seconds

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Old 02-23-2014, 04:16 PM   #61
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I really like Crockett Gillmore in the 5th round. At 6'6", 260, he's not fast, 4.89, but he is a good blocker and also a very good receiver. He really was the best receiving TE in the Senior Bowl.

cbssports.com said this about him -
We already have him, Sean McBeard.

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Old 02-23-2014, 04:29 PM   #62
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I liked Sean and he helped KC last year. Sean is not as good a blocker and also not as good of a receiver as Crockett. Speed rushers went right around Sean this year.
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Old 02-23-2014, 06:13 PM   #63
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And, as I noted, while Trey Burton is on the small side for the tight end group, but he was originally recruited as a potential quarterback by Florida, and ended up playing RB as a freshman, an H-Back as a sophomore and junior and full time wide receiver as a senior.
Dang, haven't heard this guys name... but you REALLY have to like that experience, the guy is an athlete/football player in every sense of the word.

He can do it all, gotta love that if you're a coach.
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Old 02-23-2014, 06:30 PM   #64
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I liked Sean and he helped KC last year. Sean is not as good a blocker and also not as good of a receiver as Crockett. Speed rushers went right around Sean this year.
Yeah, but still. If we draft a TE this year, he better be one who can take the top off of a defense. I don't want another slow and steady Fasano on the roster.

Know what I'm really interested in? Seeing if Demetrius Harris has developed at all with his year on the practice squad.

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Old 02-23-2014, 06:34 PM   #65
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I liked Sean and he helped KC last year. Sean is not as good a blocker and also not as good of a receiver as Crockett. Speed rushers went right around Sean this year.
blocking can be coached.

As for recieving, I think Clay posted some PFF stats of all the chiefs receivers and that McGrath had a very low drop rate.
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Yeah, but still. If we draft a TE this year, he better be one who can take the top off of a defense. I don't want another slow and steady Fasano on the roster.

Know what I'm really interested in? Seeing if Demetrius Harris has developed at all with his year on the practice squad.
How many TEs consistently do this in the NFL?
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How many TEs consistently do this in the NFL?
There are various ways of doing it, I'm not just referring to pure speed when I say that.

Guys like Gronk, Graham, and Cameron are threats down field because they have just enough speed to outrun LBs and get 15-25 yards down the seem in under 3 seconds and then they have the size to box out and high point the ball over any DB that might be there.

Who can do that in this draft? ASJ and Amaro.

Then you have Walker and Davis who aren't particularly big or great at high pointing the ball but are able to just outrun coverages to get open deep. Too fast for LBs and too fast for most safeties and some CBs.

That's Burton, Lyerla, and Leonard.

And Ebron is a combination of both types of what I consider TEs who can take the top off of a defense: He has enough speed to win deep on that alone, but also the size ball skills to dominate at the point of the catch. He does have some concentration issues though when it comes to catching the ball; needs to work on it like VD did.
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I can't shake Fiedorowicz as my guy if we have to draft a TE. I don't think we have a shot at Ebron or Amaro, nor do I think it'll be worth drafting them in the 23rd with who we will have available. I think we can get Fiedorowicz extremely late in this draft, and he comes as one of the most well rounded guys at the position in the draft and comes from a pretty solid lineage of college TE's there at Iowa.
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How many TEs consistently do this in the NFL?
Alex's old BFF Vernon Davis for one.
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Alex's old BFF Vernon Davis for one.
He's the only starting Te with a 4.3 that I know of...
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Colt Lyerla said some controversial things last year about the Sandy Hook shootings

NFL Media recently provided a broad, vague assessment of former Oregon tight end Colt Lyerla, calling him “[o]verly emotional and prone to outbursts following a dysfunctional childhood that offered little direction and much confusion related to a divorce.”

In March 2013, Lyerla had one specific outburst that could create some red flags for one or more NFL teams interested in Lyerla. At that time, Lyerla posted multiple Twitter messages expressing support for the idea that the mass shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut were in some way the result of a governmental conspiracy.

“The parents of the kids that supposedly died in the sandy hook situation are liars,” Lyerla tweeted and later deleted, according to Graham Watson of Yahoo! Sports.

The University of Oregon at the time denounced Lyerla’s tweets on the topic, calling them “insensitive and offensive.” Lyerla was dismissed from the team in October 2013 for an unspecified rules violation, and he later pleaded guilty to cocaine possession.

Multiple NFL teams may feel the same way, and some teams (especially the Giants, Jets, and Patriots, who all play in the region containing Newtown) will surely remove Lyerla from their draft boards based his comments about Sandy Hook — unless he persuasively and unequivocally denounces them and apologizes for them, or at a minimum explains that cocaine is indeed a hell of a drug.

Teams presumably knew about Lyerla’s remarks, and teams presumably grilled him for them at the Scouting Combine. Beyond the interview room, Lyerla had a mixed bag of Combine results. He managed only 15 reps in the 225-pound bench press, the fewest for all tight ends. In contrast, he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.61 seconds, putting him behind only Eric Ebron and A.C. Leonard at the position.

Lyerla also pocketed $100,000 for generating the fastest 40-yard dash while wearing a specific Adidas shoe. The prize was promoted in Indy by Snoop Dogg, who may have advised Lyerla to switch to marijuana.
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Old 02-26-2014, 09:23 AM   #72
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I can't shake Fiedorowicz as my guy if we have to draft a TE. I don't think we have a shot at Ebron or Amaro, nor do I think it'll be worth drafting them in the 23rd with who we will have available. I think we can get Fiedorowicz extremely late in this draft, and he comes as one of the most well rounded guys at the position in the draft and comes from a pretty solid lineage of college TE's there at Iowa.
CJ is the best TE out of Iowa since Marv Cook. He's just a freakish combination of size, speed, and catching ability.
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Old 02-26-2014, 09:47 AM   #73
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CJ is the best TE out of Iowa since Marv Cook. He's just a freakish combination of size, speed, and catching ability.
Ehhhh, that's heavily debatable and I don't like Cook as a reference there since he's kind of iconic to my family (from Iowa, families are intertwined deeply lol).

Dallas Clark has been the most NFL productive since cook, Moeaki had the best combination of pass catching and blocking I've probably ever seen come out of Iowa at the TE position, just didn't have the durability, could have been a great one if he did. Brandon Myers has been fairly stout the last year or two in the NFL, wasn't nearly as good back at Iowa.

The person I think that really kind of fell off the radar who I thought would translate well to the NFL was Allen Reisner. Solid blocker, pretty good hands, pretty good size. Haven't really heard anything on him in the NFL.

I think CJ is that in between type, between Moeaki's talent, and Reisner's kindn of "Brick shithouse" toughness on the field. CJ's got quite a long way to go in the NFL, but he has a set of skills and is easily molded, I think he can do well in a WCO type, heavy on TE's. Will not be surprised one bit though, if he gets snatched up by New Orleans, New England, San Francisco, or Houston.
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Ehhhh, that's heavily debatable and I don't like Cook as a reference there since he's kind of iconic to my family (from Iowa, families are intertwined deeply lol).

Dallas Clark has been the most NFL productive since cook, Moeaki had the best combination of pass catching and blocking I've probably ever seen come out of Iowa at the TE position, just didn't have the durability, could have been a great one if he did. Brandon Myers has been fairly stout the last year or two in the NFL, wasn't nearly as good back at Iowa.
Clark was the most productive, but he wasn't the best PROSPECT. Clark wasn't a prototypical TE and he went to a team that new exactly how to use him.

Moeaki's health problems just can't be overlooked. For that reason, I put CJ above him as well.
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Colt Lyerla said some controversial things last year about the Sandy Hook shootings

NFL Media recently provided a broad, vague assessment of former Oregon tight end Colt Lyerla, calling him “[o]verly emotional and prone to outbursts following a dysfunctional childhood that offered little direction and much confusion related to a divorce.”

In March 2013, Lyerla had one specific outburst that could create some red flags for one or more NFL teams interested in Lyerla. At that time, Lyerla posted multiple Twitter messages expressing support for the idea that the mass shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut were in some way the result of a governmental conspiracy.

“The parents of the kids that supposedly died in the sandy hook situation are liars,” Lyerla tweeted and later deleted, according to Graham Watson of Yahoo! Sports.

The University of Oregon at the time denounced Lyerla’s tweets on the topic, calling them “insensitive and offensive.” Lyerla was dismissed from the team in October 2013 for an unspecified rules violation, and he later pleaded guilty to cocaine possession.

Multiple NFL teams may feel the same way, and some teams (especially the Giants, Jets, and Patriots, who all play in the region containing Newtown) will surely remove Lyerla from their draft boards based his comments about Sandy Hook — unless he persuasively and unequivocally denounces them and apologizes for them, or at a minimum explains that cocaine is indeed a hell of a drug.

Teams presumably knew about Lyerla’s remarks, and teams presumably grilled him for them at the Scouting Combine. Beyond the interview room, Lyerla had a mixed bag of Combine results. He managed only 15 reps in the 225-pound bench press, the fewest for all tight ends. In contrast, he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.61 seconds, putting him behind only Eric Ebron and A.C. Leonard at the position.

Lyerla also pocketed $100,000 for generating the fastest 40-yard dash while wearing a specific Adidas shoe. The prize was promoted in Indy by Snoop Dogg, who may have advised Lyerla to switch to marijuana.
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