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Old 02-24-2014, 09:14 PM  
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The 15 Beliefs of the Tea Party

I keep hearing people on both sides bash the Tea Party and I have to admit I have never actually looked into exactly what the stance of the Tea Party is, so this is what I found. Amazingly it seems that a lot of people on both sides tend to agree with most of these beliefs. It's obvious why status quo politicians are afraid of the Tea Party but I have to question why we hear some on the voter end bashing them. I have listed the beliefs below and put a D, R or B (both) for where I think beliefs fall from an "isle" aspect:

1. Illegal aliens are here illegally. R
2. Pro-domestic employment is indispensable. D
3. A strong military is essential. R
4. Special interests must be eliminated. B
5. Gun ownership is sacred. R
6. Government must be downsized. B
7. The national budget must be balanced. B
8. Deficit spending must end. B
9. Bailout and stimulus plans are illegal. D
10. Reducing personal income taxes is a must. B
11. Reducing business income taxes is mandatory. R
12. Political offices must be available to average citizens. B
13. Intrusive government must be stopped. B
14. English as our core language is required. R
15. Traditional family values are encouraged. R

- See more at: http://www.teaparty.org/about-us/#sthash.fNHyEuQs.dpuf
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Old 02-25-2014, 03:17 AM   #76
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Comments like the one I bolded is why you and the teabaggers are considered irrational kooks.

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You forgot--that Obama is a foreign-born Muslim intent on transforming govt into a sharia-based dictatorship with the use of FEMA concentration camps, repeal of the 2nd amendment through executive order, imposing martial law, and domestic drone strikes on dissenters...among other things.
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Old 02-25-2014, 06:02 AM   #77
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So people of yesteryear believed in a whole bunch of mystical mumbo jumbo. I don't expect people to be rational a hundred percent of the time.

The fact is your rights aren't given to you by anybody. Not by the government, not by society, and not by the mythical sky deity of your choice. Your rights are inherent because they are the rights you have in the natural state of humanity.
I didn't expect you to have the courage to face the meaning of the word blessings...if you don't expect people to be rational all the time..then there is no natural state of humanity. curious, do employers have the right to know that people are here on their dime? lying and stealing are natural? think hard before you answer.


50 million abortions in the US alone...hundred million murdered in the last 1oo years? women in china?

natural state of humanity?

your motive has nothing to do with rights, and everything to do with debunking God.
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Old 02-25-2014, 06:07 AM   #78
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Yeah, I know, off the charts considering he was ranked as one of the most liberal people in the Senate. I mean where would that come from???

Keep on pretending your hero isn't anything more than an Alinsky sycophant.
Obama has been surprisingly moderate. He's like a 1960s republican.
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Old 02-25-2014, 06:16 AM   #79
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simply ridiculous
Certain words have simply been given a new meaning by RWNJs when Obama was elected. Anyone looking at things objectively would think people calling Obama Marxist are ****ing morons. Anyone left of Ron Paul gets labeled a Marxist now.
Marxists now means having the the stock market double while in office while in office, don't yea know.
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Old 02-25-2014, 06:19 AM   #80
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Obama has been surprisingly moderate. He's like a 1960s republican.
I've tried to explain 1950's - 60's - Republicanism to them before. Even using that time to compare to my own beliefs.

Obama is the best republican president since Eisenhower.
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Old 02-25-2014, 06:20 AM   #81
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I have listed the beliefs below and put a D, R or B (both) for where I think beliefs fall from an "isle" aspect:


9. Bailout and stimulus plans are illegal. D
I woulda put a "B" on this one. There were plenty of Ds defending this right here in this forum because it protected the money of the masses in banks and saved jobs.

There are Ds further to the left that don't like bailing out any corp, but the mainstream ones are fully in their pockets. Then there are Rs further to the R that support the bailouts. Just about every post WWII president has engaged in economic stimulus as a solution to an economic downturn. The differences, though slight, are in how much they do it and where the money gets spent.
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Old 02-25-2014, 06:24 AM   #82
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Without a nation of laws created by men, there would be no "rights".

Anyone would be free to anything to anyone at anytime.
Yeah, and our Framers did not think "rights" came from men's laws either.
More authoritarian systems are founded on that principle. 'Cause when fundamental rights are inherent, they are not transferable. When they come from men, then men can take them away.
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Old 02-25-2014, 06:28 AM   #83
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Old 02-25-2014, 06:28 AM   #84
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Take the famous true fan gif. ANd place it as a reaction to series of bumper stickers. That's the Tea Party.
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Take the famous true fan gif. ANd place it as a reaction to series of bumper stickers. That's the Tea Party.
take a picture of a man with a gun at a tea party rally, call him violent and racist,..then hide the fact that he's black in your photo.

that's the left.
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Luke 6:31
Really just common sense.
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Yeah by the time whoever wrote Luke got around to adding that it was 100s if not 1000s of renditions old.
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High Tech is Sorcery and the people who are really powerful are literally telling people to commit crimes using the psychic interspace created by the WWW and Wireless. They are controlling peoples actions like drones . The two things are deeply intertwined. The more man's brain interfaces with machines the creepier it gets. They use brains separate from a human body in a supercomputer and you have The Image of the Beast. The military has been doing this since the 50s
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Really just common sense.
You should practice it yourself.
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The thing about the Tea Party to remember is that it is decentralized. There is no Home Office or franchise system to ensure that each chapter holds identical ideals in the same priorities. A Tea Party chapter in Wisconsin or Michigan might have different beliefs in union relations, or pursue them with a different intensity, than a chapter from, say, Mississippi or Georgia, who might focus more on gun control. This example is by region, but they vary in plenty of other different ways as well, so you can't hold them to hard and fast mission statements.

The other thing about them is that they're vulnerable to being co-opted by special interests. The existence of Super-PAC's means completely untraceable money, which makes it super easy for crafty political operatives (who are much better at doing these sorts of things, than any of us are at spotting them) can and do bend a movement like the Tea Party to whatever they want - most likely, lining their own pockets. The other place where we saw this happen was the quick flare-gun life span of the Occupy Movement, who got co-opted by every union, left-wing think tank, and iced tea dispensary with staggering speed and efficiency.

So any analysis of the Tea Party has to be done in generalizations, and with a certain amount of cynicism. As best I can figure, the main feature that most of the Tea Party rallies around is lower taxes, both personal and (by some) corporate. That, and the logically-following austerity, are clearly Republican ideals; modern Democrats are more likely to "tax and spend", promoting entitlements, welfare, infrastructure, and so on, while understand that (to paraphrase Clinton) some 'sacrifice' will be necessary.

As for the other tenets, most of them skew Republican as well. Look at the items on that list of 15 that voters are most passionate about. Abortion is (wisely) avoided completely, but the phrasing of their stance on immigration, gun control, family values (that is, gay rights), and lowering taxes all take the conservative side. I don't believe anything there is solely the view of the left.

Face it: The Tea Party is a Republican- and right-leaning movement. It's not unusual, though, for Tea Party darlings to try and convince left-leaners that it appeals to them as well, even though in most spheres it really doesn't. That's Recruitment 101.
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Ranked by who? Conservative nuts? Regardless, his Senate record is his Senate record. I assumed you were talking about his presidency.

Comments like the one I bolded is why you and the teabaggers are considered irrational kooks.
You are a disgusting communist POS. Instead of wrecking the USA with your stupidity, just move to Cuba, North Korea, China or Russia.
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