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Old 02-25-2014, 07:20 AM  
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Covert Agents Infiltrate the net to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2...-manipulation/

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Among the core self-identified purposes of JTRIG are two tactics: (1) to inject all sorts of false material onto the internet in order to destroy the reputation of its targets; and (2) to use social sciences and other techniques to manipulate online discourse and activism to generate outcomes it considers desirable.
Mind blowing article with so many implications. Unfortunately this gives more credibility to people calling "shill" with everyone they disagree with. But it turns out that there are such agents actively manipulating opinions in online forums. The slides he shows even mentions some of their tactics such as using: confirmation bias, disinfo, slander, anchoring, priming, social penetration theory, attention control, etc.
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Old 02-25-2014, 10:47 AM   #31
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Old 02-25-2014, 10:49 AM   #32
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Thought what?
Purposely obtuse or trying to setup a "gotcha?"
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:08 AM   #33
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Purposely obtuse or trying to setup a "gotcha?"
Neither. I'm just curious who you thought of since neither of you named a name. You seemed to know who he was talking about.
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:10 AM   #34
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I suspect there are at least a couple in this joint. Seriously. No other rational explanation for their posting and behavior.

They are probably partisan (paid) "agents" of the political parties. The hours, upon hours they spend in this cesspool--it's mind-boggling.
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:11 AM   #35
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Neither. I'm just curious who you thought of since neither of you named a name. You seemed to know who he was talking about.
He's talking about everyone who clicked on the thread.
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:13 AM   #36
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Neither. I'm just curious who you thought of since neither of you named a name. You seemed to know who he was talking about.
I thought of Alex Jones type people myself, but no one in particular. But PB was alluding to Cosmo.
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:26 AM   #37
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I suppose there will always be outliers esp among the folks who believe the tea party to be more dangerous than Muslims.
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:30 AM   #38
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I'm telling you that goverment agencies actively participate in disinformation. That was something that was only suspected by "conspiracy theorists", but now is proven.
Oh stop it. They do not.
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:32 AM   #39
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And anything he can't refute with facts or reason is something someone in lying about.
That's pretty good, considering the couple times I called you out on facts you were dead wrong. I didn't call you a liar, though. I assumed you got all frazzled and got a little careless and sloppy. That's not really lying.
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:38 AM   #40
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I think this is the first time in all my years here that I've seen somebody have it in for Baby Lee.
I'm not sure why others are so delicate with him, but this can be traced back to one particular thing I called him out on. He was being absolutely ridiculous and was dead wrong, and he went all psycho on me for questioning him. Ever since, he makes cracks from time to time, and then I point out what a pretentious drama queen he is.
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:39 AM   #41
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:43 AM   #42
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That's pretty good, considering the couple times I called you out on facts you were dead wrong. I didn't call you a liar, though. I assumed you got all frazzled and got a little careless and sloppy. That's not really lying.
Those two are some prime lies right there.
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:44 AM   #43
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cosmo are you the mole?
I've been accused of being a paid shill. I think some people are even serious.
My response has been that 1) I'm flattered that people think I'm so good I should be paid, and 2) everyone else on here is shilling for free, what's wrong with being paid?
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:56 AM   #44
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Nothing. They're also not part of the govt either. Logic FAIL.

Now quit being a TARD.
Ummmm...how is he supposed to do that? Can he go to the store and buy a hundred IQ points? I think not..stuck for sure.
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:58 AM   #45
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Oh stop it. They do not.
Glen Greenwald's article and corroborating government documents prove otherwise.

In 2011, some other guardian journalists reported on some of this:

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Revealed: US spy operation that manipulates social media.
Military's 'sock puppet' software creates fake online identities to spread pro-American propaganda
This is like Operation Mockingbird on steroids.

Harvard Law Professor Cass Sunstein, who is on Obama's NSA oversight panel advocated for this in one of his published papers.

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Some conspiracy theories create serious risks. They do not merely undermine democratic debate; in extreme cases, they create or fuel violence. If government can dispel such theories, it should do so. One problem is that its efforts might be counterproductive, because efforts to rebut conspiracy theories also legitimate them. We have suggested, however, that government can minimize this effect by rebutting more rather than fewer theories, by enlisting independent groups to supply rebuttals, and by cognitive infiltration designed to break up the crippled epistemology of conspiracy-minded groups and informationally isolated social networks.
It seems like the "5 eyes" are running a Stasi-like social monitoring and control system.

Who here is part of Obama's "truth team?"
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