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Rand Paul Is the 2016 Republican Frontrunner
Don't laugh. He has built-in advantages in Iowa and New Hampshire, a party moving in his direction, and formidable fundraising potential.
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2000: Bush - 50,456,002 Gore - 50,999,897 2004: Bush - 62,040,610 Kerry - 59,028,444 2008: Obama - 69,498,516 McCain - 59,948,323 2009: Obama - 65,915,796 Romney - 60,933,500 Both McCain and Romney's numbers are better than both Gore's and Kerry's. Barack Obama's numbers are inflated because he's Barack Obama. Those aren't Democrats. Those are Kotters. And saying that if the Democrat base turns out, they win - this is not remarkable. This is the normal challenge for both parties. Likewise, if the Republicans turn out conservatives and libertarians, and do what Reagan (and Frankly GWB) did by drawing conservative Democrats to the Republicans, they win. This is the name of the game. Who is going to carry Obama's numbers on the left? Not Clinton - don't believe the hype. She's going to be bloodied by her own left flank, and then she's going to be bloodied by the right. She's old news - and she might not even run. Biden? Biden isn't going to break over 60k in votes - are you kidding me? Kerry shows where Biden's ceiling is. I do have a caveat - and that's Harold Ford, Jr. I have not heard anything about him wanting to run, but if he did, I believe he has potential to draw like Obama. Aside from that, the narrative that the Democrats are a shoe-in to win the presidency in 2016 is hardly valid. This is going to be a contest. We're looking at another election like 2000 where it will be neck and neck. Aside from what is happening now, there is going to be plenty that happens between now and 2016 that gives this country much to reflect on.
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Also for what it's worth, I do think Rand Paul is the only Republican with any hope of winning in 2016. There is no other candidate that I see in the current field who can both unite the Republican factions, as well as draw from the left. I like Ted Cruz, but I don't think he could draw from the left like Rand Paul could. The rest of the field doesn't have the ability to keep the coalition together. Paul's problem is going to be the Dick Cheney faction, which has a solid grip on the establishment media in this country. I think that they're going to be willing to take the party down knowing that Clinton gives them everything they want anyway. They will bloody Rand and pave the path for Hillary - but they're going to have trouble with both sides once that happens. Who knows how that shakes out. We live in interesting times...
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Has anyone ever lost a presidential election by 101%?
Serious question.
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So, we've gone from "only Ron Paul can save us!!!W@!3Q31" to "only Rand Paul can save us!"
JFC.
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Another 2 years of posts about how only * Paul can save us, and how he's the presumptive, and how much money he's raised that the other candidates can't match, and how he's going to roll over the other nominees as soon as people just wake up, and... "to the 'ship", etc
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Like we heard about Ron in each of the last two election cycles...
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The R's lost the last two election cycles.
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Yes, and before that during primary season, Ron failed to gain traction with any appreciably sized group on the right even with advantages in funding and supporter engagement, let alone drawing people in from the left or displaying the capability to win a national election
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(CNN) -- Tayna Fogle sat just behind Sen. Rand Paul, nodding her head and listening as he pressed the case with Kentucky state senators to restore felon voting rights.
"Kids do make mistakes. White kids make mistakes. Black kids make mistakes. Brown kids make mistakes," Paul told the Kentucky state Senate committee considering a constitutional amendment to restore the voting rights of some felons on Wednesday. "But when you look at the prison population, three out of the four people in prison are black or brown." Fogle whispered: "Good for you. I'm glad someone is speaking up." She felt as if he was narrating her life. http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/19/politi...-felon-voting/ |
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