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Old 01-26-2014, 10:51 PM  
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Megadeth > Metallica

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I'm a HUGE Metallica fan. In fact my first 5 years of playing electric guitar was solely based on Metallica. I started off playing Bluegrass guitar with my dad, even though my soul wasn't bluegrass.

My first exposure to Metallica was hearing "Nothing Else Matters" on MTV before school waiting for my buddy to pick me up for school. I asked my brother if he had ever heard of them, and of course he had. He handed me a tape that had zero information of it. in that all the 'font' (for lack of a better word) was gone. It was a simple 'blank" tape. It was weathered, and the only thing I could determine that it was a Metallica tape was simply my brother's word. It was Master of Puppets Within 4 weeks, I had owned everything of Metallica and had thrown bluegrass by the wayside.

Long loving Metallica fan for years; devoted. Having heard Megadeth and loving a few of their songs, I was still committed to Metallica. However, years later, I've discovered that I may have been premature in my categorization of music.

Years had passed since I had really 'listened' to Megadeth. Years, as in 10+. Then, I stumbled upon a Megadeth record. While it escapes my memory at this point, the collective memory of the tunes has lead me to the belief that Megadeth is better than Metalica.

While some, to what degree I don't know, may have always held this belief, the discovery of Megadeth is a new one for me. After listening to many records, Im beginning to feel more confident in saying that Megadeth is better. Obviously, it's subjective.

Metallica's "Black" Album is equivalent to Pink Floy'd "The Wall" in terms of impact. However, Megadeth's "Symphony of Destruction", has been severely over-shadowed by the 'Black" album of Metallica. Subsequently, as it had been up to that point, Megadeth had fallen by the wayside. "Symphony of Destructions' release around the same time, was over-shadowed by the Black album.

After what was a universal success of the Black album, Megadeth seemed to finally have received the kill shot. But, if we are to look at the records and time frame comparatively, I think Megadeth got the short end of the stick.

Since then, Megadeth has sustained their status despite radio and marketing support. I've listened to several Megadeth albums/tunes from the "Black" album going forward, and I must say they are not getting the credit that is due. In some aspects, they blow Metallica out of the water. To be honest, they are quickly surpassing Metallica.

I've always been a huge fan of Megadeth since the Mechanix type songs. But since Peace Sells Who's Buying album, Megadeth has gotten the shaft. By a LONG shot.

TLDR....but oh well.

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Old 03-12-2014, 08:26 PM   #181
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Josh Homme is a hero of mine (loved Kyuss back in the day) and I like the Sword too. Solid jam bands.
Kyuss will probably go down as my all time favourite band. Unfortunately, I can't say that I hold much respect for Josh Homme these days.

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Old 03-12-2014, 08:31 PM   #182
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Kyuss will probably go down as my all time favourite band. Unfortunately, I can't say that I hold much respect for Josh Homme these days.

http://noisecreep.com/vista-chino-de...it-josh-homme/
I'm aware of his disputes with Kyuss, but that is their problem. I don't know anything about their relationships or their process.

All indications are that he's pretty much a huge asshole. I already know that.

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Old 03-12-2014, 09:18 PM   #183
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Ozzy may try to sing in a similar style, but he's so bad that he can't get to that high pitch that annoys me and Ronnie seemed to really enjoy STAYING there all the damn time. He doesn't have to, but I guess adding some bass to it wasn't his thing. He could have, because his voice was quite literally an instrument for music.
And I mean this with absolutely no offensive intent...

It's clear to me you haven't heard much Dio. Not that you should have if you don't like him. I don't expect anybody to listen to something they don't like.

Ronnie has a dynamic range and there's a lot of songs that he sings in lower registers. A lot actually. Example "Children of the Sea"

Ozzy actually sings predominantly in a much higher pitch than Ronnie. Much higher. Example "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath"

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Again man, it's personal taste. I'm sure if I quizzed you enough you'd say something that made no sense to me too. It's weird like that.
No, it's cool. Talking about music is fun. Nobody likes all of the same things. That would be creepy.
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Old 03-12-2014, 09:22 PM   #184
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Kyuss will probably go down as my all time favourite band. Unfortunately, I can't say that I hold much respect for Josh Homme these days.

http://noisecreep.com/vista-chino-de...it-josh-homme/
Dude, it's not all Homme's fault.

I do have mad respect for Brant Bjork and I feel bad for him and the guys but he called out Scott Reeder too and Reeder is one of the nicest guys by all accounts.

There's more to it than just Josh being a dick. I mean Dave Grohl is one of the coolest dudes anywhere on the planet and he stuck with Josh through this.
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Old 03-12-2014, 09:26 PM   #185
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Speaking of "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" I'm listening to "A National Acrobat" right now. ****ing kickass song.
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Old 03-12-2014, 11:08 PM   #186
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Man I was just giving you shit because you were calling someone's art 'garbage' just because you didn't like it and were essentially comparing it to straight thrash metal and it's lack of riffs or whatever the hell. "If it's thrash, it needs this many riffs per song". They did what they did. How guys like you quantify it isn't the concern of most artists.

The fact that you don't like it, or don't appreciate it, does not in and of itself make it garbage. You are not an authority on what is or is not good music no matter how much of it you listen to. That is the ONLY point I was making. The same thing applies to movies and TV by the way.
You can't comprehend or understand the words that I've used in my posts, nor can you even comprehend the words you've used in your own posts. I was always stating my opinion about Pantera, not an objective claim (though their theft is pretty objectively true). Also, that wasn't the only point you were making; I know because I know how to read. I am surprised by your sudden turn towards idiocy.
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Old 03-12-2014, 11:32 PM   #187
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Never a fan of Pantera, saw them from the beginning and thought they blew chunks. I still remember getting Master of puppets on my 16th birthday and i was totally blown away...that was the start of "Speed Metal". Peace Sells was a great album as well, but i have invested so much time into Master of puppets...it's easily one of the best albums of all time. I don't listen to any of it much anymore, i'm more into Euro Techno Industrial still(stuck on that for a while) but I remember the early days of speed metal...Exodus...Exciter....Metallica...Slayer...Agent Steel...I bought so many cassettes and Cd's back in the day...takes me back even though i've progressed beyond the Metal stage at this point.
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Old 03-13-2014, 08:44 AM   #188
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that was the start of "Speed Metal".
Maybe for you. For some of us, speed metal started before that.
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Old 03-13-2014, 09:40 AM   #189
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Dude, it's not all Homme's fault.

I do have mad respect for Brant Bjork and I feel bad for him and the guys but he called out Scott Reeder too and Reeder is one of the nicest guys by all accounts.

There's more to it than just Josh being a dick. I mean Dave Grohl is one of the coolest dudes anywhere on the planet and he stuck with Josh through this.
There are always two sides to every story. Who to believe? Be careful of what you say about Reeder. Read the article attached.
I see a guy that has everything going for him in Homme and decided to shit on his fellow mates simply because he had the opportunity to. Sure, they had a falling out years ago but just let the guys do Kyuss Lives! and you do your own thing with QOTSA.
I've met Josh, Nick, Brant and John. All at separate times. Josh was the only prick of the bunch.

Read this one.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...wsuit-20120521

BTW, Megadeath doesn't compare to Metallica.
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BTW, Megadeath doesn't compare to Metallica.
Of course not. One is a mediocre garage band and the other is a heavy metal masterpiece.
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Speaking of Ozzy's vocals, does anyone else hear a loss of range on "13"? To me Ozzy is starting to get the same thing that happened to Dio over his last few recordings, where his singing sounds muted or something.

I still like "13"; it just makes me sad.
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Old 03-13-2014, 11:07 AM   #192
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Speaking of Ozzy's vocals, does anyone else hear a loss of range on "13"? To me Ozzy is starting to get the same thing that happened to Dio over his last few recordings, where his singing sounds muted or something.

I still like "13"; it just makes me sad.
It's to be expected. Guys lose their higher registers when they get older, unless they're actually trained to sing. Those guys can often hold onto it longer.
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Old 03-13-2014, 11:16 AM   #193
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It's to be expected. Guys lose their higher registers when they get older, unless they're actually trained to sing. Those guys can often hold onto it longer.
Yeah, I know. It just sucks when you start to hear it. Ozzy is 65 so he has actually held up pretty well, all things considered.
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Yeah, I know. It just sucks when you start to hear it. Ozzy is 65 so he has actually held up pretty well, all things considered.


He's lucky he didn't ****ing die 25 years ago!
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Speaking of Ozzy's vocals, does anyone else hear a loss of range on "13"? To me Ozzy is starting to get the same thing that happened to Dio over his last few recordings, where his singing sounds muted or something.

I still like "13"; it just makes me sad.
Saw Ozzy a couple of years ago when Slash and Miles Kennedy opened for him (They kicked ass, btw. That would have been a hell of a concert in and of itself). I swear Ozzy was auto tuned in every single song. Was sad to hear.
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