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Old 02-27-2014, 11:23 AM  
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Old 03-14-2014, 03:51 AM   #526
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How exactly does it demand a much higher moral standard?

No, there really isn't some higher standard, you just strike me as one of many Americans who find any other spiritual belief system to be superior to Christianity... doesn't seem to matter what it might be, Buddhism, paganism, Satan worship etc.

While you may not be a strict adherent to any of them, you enjoy feeling superior to the "average American" by championing or defending those alternative beliefs IMO. There are millions of people like that... anything but Christianity, heaven forbid you're asked for something in return, just gimme the good stuff for free.

I'm done going into the name calling with you, but you are anti Christian in every sense of the word and see NO good in it... yet at the same time, you seem to see merit in any and everything else, just as long as it isn't Christian.

If you exposed yourself to those teachings then you'd understand what I mean by those statements. Had you paid attention you would have seen me state in another thread that I self identify as a Buddhist of the Mahayana tradition. I should also note that this is a philosophy, not a religion, although some may use it as such. I do hesitate to identify as a Buddhist because that tends to lead to confusion and misunderstanding. I'm not a Buddhist in the same sense that you (I assume) are a Christian. Those two people form very different parts of our respective lives.

And this brings me to my other comment. Yes, those scriptures demand a higher moral standard from the listener. The student will either learn or go no farther until he/she has figured it out for themselves. It is an active process, a destructive process, that one goes through. And it never really seems to end. This may be a sticking point as what you and I determine "moral" to be may be very different.

I have read the King James version of the Bible. Many times. I tend to focus on the New Testament because the Old is so full of ugliness, hatred and senseless law that it is very difficult to glean anything useful from it. Still, I believe it is there, and I have tried. I have been rewarded from time to time with pearls of wisdom and was thankful for it.

I have read the New Testament much more than the old. I have found many similarities to other teachings from around the world. It appears to be the same message told in a different environment, to different people. That's not a fault in the message, that's a strength. How do you give witness to a slave? A whore? A soldier? A king? A merchant? An aristocrat? The same words, the same metaphors, the same allegories, the same parables...they just aren't going to communicate a set of ideas clearly in every case. That's OK though, as long as it remains a work in progress as are we all.

As far as your anti-Christian remarks, no. I'm not anti any religion or religious leader. I lack the will or the time to be. What I will do is use my own mental faculties to assess the concepts that are expressed to me. In this particular forum there is an abundance of Christian philosophies being expressed. That abundance doesn't make them any more valid. A wagon load of manure may be filled more, but the smell is the same as a bucket full. Just as you may feel obligated to keep that wagon on the road I am obligated to let it pass by and avoid absorbing the stench from a careless splash.
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Old 03-14-2014, 08:17 AM   #527
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There are enough statements from all of the major founding fathers to call this conclusion into question. I really don't care for quote mining and your sources are contradicted by others. I see it as a giant exercise in masturbation.

The underlying truth is the bible is man made and written. There is not a scrap of contemporary evidence for the existence of a earthly jesus. So what someone thought of this 230 years ago is of little consequence.


Welp, that's it for me. I'm done. Say hello to number 51 Dave Lane.

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Old 03-15-2014, 06:50 PM   #528
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Thank you, glad the absolute truth of history has set you free.
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High Tech is Sorcery and the people who are really powerful are literally telling people to commit crimes using the psychic interspace created by the WWW and Wireless. They are controlling peoples actions like drones . The two things are deeply intertwined. The more man's brain interfaces with machines the creepier it gets. They use brains separate from a human body in a supercomputer and you have The Image of the Beast. The military has been doing this since the 50s
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Old 03-15-2014, 07:49 PM   #529
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Old 03-16-2014, 08:50 AM   #530
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The underlying truth is the bible is man made and written. There is not a scrap of contemporary evidence for the existence of a earthly jesus. So what someone thought of this 230 years ago is of little consequence.
Speaking as someone who personally is does not consider himself a Christian, I enjoy the story that Jesus traveled to, and learned from the Monks of India. Apparently going by the Name Yeshua.

Learned that whole love and peace thing there.
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Old 03-16-2014, 09:03 AM   #531
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Speaking as someone who personally is does not consider himself a Christian, I enjoy the story that Jesus traveled to, and learned from the Monks of India. Apparently going by the Name Yeshua.

Learned that whole love and peace thing there.
Face it, it was the hash.
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High Tech is Sorcery and the people who are really powerful are literally telling people to commit crimes using the psychic interspace created by the WWW and Wireless. They are controlling peoples actions like drones . The two things are deeply intertwined. The more man's brain interfaces with machines the creepier it gets. They use brains separate from a human body in a supercomputer and you have The Image of the Beast. The military has been doing this since the 50s
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Old 03-16-2014, 10:10 AM   #533
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Face it, it was the hash.
Oh yea. You can't have love and peace with out the Hash.
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Old 03-16-2014, 10:26 AM   #534
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To some extent. Let's be aware that the left twists some of Paine's words for a progressive/socialist bent. They do the same with Adam Smith. Context matters.
Um... I'm not 'the left'. Nor am I a progressive/socialist. You're more authoritarian than I am missy.

The fact that Paine leaned in ways that would qualify him as such in modern terms is just an extrapolation that has quite a bit of supporting evidence. In the end, I don't do so out of desire. It's just a conclusion I reached from reading his works.

The socioeconomic theories you mention didn't even exist at the time. Paine's writings paint a pretty clear picture of what he believed in the context of his own time. When I say these things it's an opinion. That's why I use qualifiers like "I think" and "I believe".
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I now consider myself a Lane-ite. Lead me Dave, lead me.

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