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Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich forced to resign for supporting traditional marriage laws
BY JOEL GEHRKE | APRIL 3, 2014 AT 3:48 PM


Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich resigned under pressure after gay rights activists demanded that he step down or recant his support of traditional marriage laws.

Eich donated $1,000 to support Proposition 8, the California ballot initiative that amended the state's constitution to define marriage as between one man and one woman.

"I don't want to talk about my personal beliefs because I kept them out of Mozilla all these 15 years we've been going, Eich told The Guardian. I don't believe they're relevant.

That wasn't an option. "CEO Brendan Eich should make an unequivocal statement of support for marriage equality," a Credoaction petition signed by almost 75,000 people said, per The Inquirer. "If he cannot, he should resign. And if he will not, the board should fire him immediately."

When asked if his beliefs about marriage should constitute a firing offense the way racism or sexism does, Eich argued that these religious beliefs and beliefs popular as of 2008 should not be used as a basis for dismissal.

"I don't believe that's true, on the basis of what's permissible to support or vote on in 2008," he told CNET. "It's still permissible. Beliefs that are protected, that include political and religious speech, are generally not something that can be held against even a CEO. I understand there are people who disagree with me on this one."

On Thursday, Mozilla announced that he had resigned. "Mozilla prides itself on being held to a different standard and, this past week, we didn't live up to it," executive chairwoman Mitchell Baker wrote. "We know why people are hurt and angry, and they are right"

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Old 04-05-2014, 04:19 PM   #211
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Go check out her views on the West being freedom hating coercers in Ukraine yet Russia has done NO wrong there. It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad.
I didn't say "NO" wrong. I said it's understandable considering all the facts; considering our country uses the same reasoning. I don't care what flag flies over Crimea. But not all the facts being reported are accurate and some are hyperbole. I'd rather we just stay out of it instead of being involved as a sort of big daddy of the world punishing others for the same that we would do. It's their backyard.

The fact is you think the USA has done NO wrong.
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Old 04-05-2014, 04:20 PM   #212
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No. BEP is full of shit because she claims those who want Eich out are coercive freedom-haters, but she won't defend the right of a Jew-hating CEO to keep his job. Her principles are total bullshit if she won't go to bat for the second case.
So you think, anti 'Gay marriage' is the same as Jew hating?
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Old 04-05-2014, 04:21 PM   #213
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It's the nature of the job.
Why?

If the shoe were on the other foot with some minority forced out, or made to resign, you can bet the left would be screaming about it.
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Old 04-05-2014, 04:21 PM   #214
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So you think, anti 'Gay marriage' is the same as Jew hating?
Apparently so. To him, that is.
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Old 04-05-2014, 04:22 PM   #215
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Why?

If the shoe were on the other foot with some minority forced out, or made to resign, you can bet the left would be screaming about it.
Because a CEO is one of the "faces" of an organization. That's the way it works.
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Old 04-05-2014, 04:22 PM   #216
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BEP, there's zero nuance in the fact that you clearly believe those who ousted Eich are coercive freedom-haters, but you refuse to be so condemning of anyone that would oust a anti-semite.
I see you can't read then.
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Old 04-05-2014, 04:23 PM   #217
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Because a CEO is one of the "faces" of an organization. That's the way it works.
According to who?

Never mind, I'll answer. To progs.

For some reason, I never even know the face of any CEO of any store I buy in.
Never even crosses my mind. I doubt it's true for most shoppers too. It's the political activists that do this stuff.

If I want the product bad enough, I will overlook it.

I hate George Clooney on guns. Rarely see his films. But there was one he was in I wanted to see badly enough. So I overlooked it. However, I never arranged a political boycott of his films before then either. Just quietly did my thing.

I am surprised you are taking this position as a libertarian though.
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Old 04-05-2014, 04:25 PM   #218
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According to who?

Never mind, I'll answer. To progs.

For some reason, I never even know the face of any CEO of any store I buy in.

I am surprised you are taking this position as a libertarian though.

Uh...no. You've got it completely backwards. To the company.
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Old 04-05-2014, 04:28 PM   #219
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Uh...no. You've got it completely backwards. To the company.
Huh? Got what backwards? Oh I see, inside the company. I think it's best that anyone at work steer away from politics ( as well as religion). Especially these days. One can lose their job. Not a wise move imo.
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For ****'s sake I just explained three posts ago, can you read digger?

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For the purpose of my question to BEP about the Coke CEO, I'm not suggesting they're the same thing. As it applies to Eich, BEP seems to have a very hard and fast rule that people's views are off limits from their work life and all who want Eich gone from Mozilla are coercive freedom-haters. BEP will not say (I wonder why?) whether or not she holds that same principle as it applies to views that we all agree are offensive, like someone who hates Jews.

The entire point of the Jew-hating CEO example is that it's more extreme than Eich's actions.
If BEP's principles only extend so far as to defend someone like Eich, but stop short of defending an anti-Semite, then those aren't principles at all, they're just moral judgements about what views you can and can't be fired for.
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If BEP's principles only extend so far as to defend someone like Eich, but stop short of defending an anti-Semite, then those aren't principles at all, they're just moral judgements about what views you can and can't be fired for.

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Asking loaded questions isn't making your own case for you DayeMania. LOL! You're funny.
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Old 04-05-2014, 04:38 PM   #223
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Huh? Got what backwards? Oh I see, inside the company. I think it's best that anyone at work steer away from politics ( as well as religion). Especially these days. One can lose their job. Not a wise move imo.
Here's the quote from that article PB posted in the OP:

On Thursday, Mozilla announced that he had resigned. "Mozilla prides itself on being held to a different standard and, this past week, we didn't live up to it," executive chairwoman Mitchell Baker wrote. "We know why people are hurt and angry, and they are right: it's because we haven't stayed true to ourselves. We didn't act like you'd expect Mozilla to act. We didn't move fast enough to engage with people once the controversy started. We're sorry. We must do better."

It's kind of a bullshit statement that doesn't really address the issue. Just going by the various quotes I've read from Eich and Mozilla they are rolling with; Eich was promoted to CEO, someone found out that he made a political contribution in support of a controversial proposition, there was a strong public backlash to him personally in response to that, he made the decision to step down and leave the company taking the PR hit with him, the company believes it could have/should have handled the situation better. He's free to do whatever he wishes politically of course. But people are also free to express their discontent with him if they wish. So either he fell on his sword like a good little soldier or he was told that he was bad for business and allowed to resign rather than be terminated (or demoted).
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Asking loaded questions isn't making your own case for you DayeMania. LOL! You're funny.
What's funny is how you, and most conservatives really, hide their disdain for gay people behind platitudes like "freedom", and oh isn't it so terrible that the evil liberals are forcing Eich out of a job because they're intolerant of his views. Yet when pressed on these platitudes and how much you really believe in them, you waver and dodge.

Why not just admit that you're upset about the Eich thing because you agree with him and you don't want gays to get married? Stop being a ****ing coward and own it.
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