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Old 04-14-2014, 07:58 PM  
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Bill to ban traffic cameras gets first hearing

I know there was a discussion about how to defeat Red Light/Photo Radar cameras here a while back - I'm too lazy to look it up - so new thread....anyway seems like this might be the ultimate way to defeat them - lobby your lawmakers at the state level



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DENVER (AP) - Colorado lawmakers are trying to ban red-light and speeding cameras, but they're facing opposition from local governments.

The proposal from Greeley Republican Sen. Scott Renfroe is getting its first hearing and vote in a Senate committee Monday afternoon. The bill would forbid cities and towns from using the automated traffic enforcement devices.

The Colorado Municipal League, which represents more than 250 communities in the state, says it should be up to cities and towns to decide the matter on their own, and that the cameras are important to public safety.

Renfroe argues the cameras are used to make money, not to improve public safety.

Democratic Sen. Lucia Guzman and Democratic Senate President Morgan Carroll are co-sponsoring the bill, giving the proposal a good chance to pass the chamber.




http://www.9news.com/story/news/poli...aring/7704399/
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:27 AM   #31
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One of the cities here did that and guess what? It worked.
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:33 AM   #32
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Those Red Light companies are nothing but a scam. They do not send the ticket and bill, send a 2nd notice after the deadline then charge a 100$ late fee on top of the tickets. These damn things should be outlawed.
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:36 AM   #33
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One of the cities here did that and guess what? It worked.
What's next, the city of KCMO getting smart enough to run some sort of traffic control for the parkers of 1201 Walnut/the attached "Standard Parking Garage" during events like the Big-12 tournament (that Missouri has not teams in)?

Not to stray, but having been one of the "downtown" folks who've paid for every step of progress KC has seen in the downtown area, it maddening! Between closing streets for construction for years at a time, one after the other, and Standard Parking being whores and letting the ****ing Arvest bank get built into the SE corner of the garage (thus eliminating any chance of six stories of parkers getting out onto Grand Ave), I'm praying KCMO loses the Big12 tournament and it goes to a City/State that has a team in the ****ing tournament.. Why??? Because they can close-down the streets, but when traffic is backed-up for 4-5 stories, they do not a goddamn thing to help get the garage emptied. They can help at Chiefs games, but not during the Big-12 tournament. So **** KCMO, Standard Parking, and Arvest Bank! Assholes!

I'm sure they have a litany a reasons, excuses and unsolvalbe complexity, so I'll just be happy if they lose the tournament and eliminate one more "daytime" event the SPRINT center hosts that ****-over the people mainly in 1201 Walnut and parkers in the attached garage... Sly is a ****er! And just wait until next year's Big-12 tournament with the NW corner of 13th/Walnut ****ed up so they can build another building... The gridlock is going to be epic...

There, I feel better.
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:43 AM   #34
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I believe it was sarcasm- because the RLC didn't and doesn't do anything to increase safety or prevent accidents.
I know it was sarcasm, but it was a pretty dumb way to criticize a red light camera. If someone runs a Stop sign and kills someone, it would be pretty dumb to say, "Good thing that Stop sign was there to prevent that from happening."
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:51 AM   #35
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I know it was sarcasm, but it was a pretty dumb way to criticize a red light camera. If someone runs a Stop sign and kills someone, it would be pretty dumb to say, "Good thing that Stop sign was there to prevent that from happening."
The proponents of RLC do say that.

So they are pretty dumb, huh?
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Old 04-15-2014, 12:13 PM   #36
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Old 04-15-2014, 12:16 PM   #37
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Good luck to you all, and remember to vote out any local politician who votes for cameras.
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Old 04-15-2014, 12:24 PM   #38
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The proponents of RLC do say that.

So they are pretty dumb, huh?
I'd say anymore that people who are in favor of them by a overwhelming majority are either uninformed or lack the ability in critical thinking, and simply opt for being in favor of them because at 1st blush it "sounds" like a good idea and a preventative measure.
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Old 04-15-2014, 01:36 PM   #39
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So, this example here makes sense to you somehow?
I have worked directly with one of the companies that sets up these RLC’s and if there was a point posted on this topic that I disagreed with it would be included in this post.
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