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****Official Teddy Bridgewater Thread****

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Old 04-23-2014, 09:03 PM   #31
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Step 1: Acquire another team's backup QB to be your new starter. Point to his potential and ability to be a leader and keep the team in games. Ignore his inability to WIN games.

CHECK: Alex Smith acquired

Step 2: With a high 1st-round pick, insist there is no QB worthy of that high pick and that it is best to wait until later in the draft and get a similar QB at better value.
- 2A: After all worthwhile QBs go off the board between 1st and 2nd round picks, again point to value and draft BPA.
- 2B: Continue 2A until drafting a Ricky Stanzi/Pat Barnes in Round 5 or later

CHECK: Drafting a QB early avoided. Tyler Bray signed as UDFA to replace Step 2B

Step 3: Say you will wait until next year to draft a QB in the 1st and develop a franchise guy.

And... here... we... are

Step 4: Slog to somewhere between 7-10 wins and talk up how "competitive" your season was and how "close" the team is.

Step 5: When next year comes, watch in feigned dismay as all the "good" QBs go off the board before your pick. Sigh, sell "BPA available" and draft for that, saying "We're too close to winning something big to reach on a QB at this pick. Other needs must be addressed. We'll get a similar QB later at a better value."
- Step 5a: Again watch in dismay as no similar QBs are available by the next pick. Again draft BPA.
- Step 5B: Rinse and repeat 5A until eventually arriving at 2B.

Step 6: Talk up previously acquired backup QB, now-starter and how much talent you've added in the draft around him. Reference "weapons" and "chunks."

Step 7: Repeat Steps 5-6 for 2-3 more years, then reset at Step 1.
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Old 04-28-2014, 10:01 AM   #32
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All signs are pointing to Teddy Bridgewater being drafted by the Chiefs!

1. Too good to pass up with a late first round pick. Only 4 INTs last year running a "pro style offense".
2. Dropped from as high as #1 pick due to to a shaky Pro day in which he failed to wear his throwing gloves for some reason??
3. Praised as being humble, a hard worker and student of the game.


Plus it is time to break the Blackledge curse.

Alex has proven to be a great mentor, Teddy could learn a lot in the next year as he continues to grow and put on muscle.

What do you guys think??
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Old 04-28-2014, 10:10 AM   #33
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What do you guys think??
I trust Reid's decision on Qbs either way. He has a good track record.
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Old 04-28-2014, 10:59 AM   #34
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All signs are pointing to Teddy Bridgewater being drafted by the Chiefs!

1. Too good to pass up with a late first round pick. Only 4 INTs last year running a "pro style offense".
2. Dropped from as high as #1 pick due to to a shaky Pro day in which he failed to wear his throwing gloves for some reason??
3. Praised as being humble, a hard worker and student of the game.


Plus it is time to break the Blackledge curse.

Alex has proven to be a great mentor, Teddy could learn a lot in the next year as he continues to grow and put on muscle.

What do you guys think??
I think Freddy Bilgewater is the exact same guy as Blackledge.

Excellent, very accurate and successful college QB who is skinny, lacks arm strength, bad footwork and release and doesn't run through his progression tree very well.

I think their careers will be similar due to the similar deficiencies in their games.
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Old 04-28-2014, 11:55 AM   #35
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I think Freddy Bilgewater is the exact same guy as Blackledge.

Excellent, very accurate and successful college QB who is skinny, lacks arm strength, bad footwork and release and doesn't run through his progression tree very well.
I think their careers will be similar due to the similar deficiencies in their games.
Just a month or so ago many had him as the top pick in the draft? Here is an interesting article on the points you just made.


Teddy Bridgewater's draft stock is falling, and there's no good reason why
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B Eric Adelson16 hours agoYahoo Sports

Teddy Bridgewater needs to seize the moment

.NFL draft experts like to talk about "measurables" at this time of here. So here's one:

Four.

That's the number of interceptions thrown in the entire 2013 season by Teddy Bridgewater. Four interceptions against 31 touchdowns. A year ago, that kind of season would have only reinforced the widely held belief that Bridgewater was a top-two pick in the 2014 draft.

Instead, he's plummeting.

Mike Mayock of NFL Network said this weekend he would not take Bridgewater in the first round; Mayock was formerly very high on the former Louisville star.

Mayock's not alone. The consensus on Bridgewater has veered from highly coveted to highly criticized in the months since he threw for three touchdowns and 447 yards in the Russell Athletic Bowl against Miami. The change in regard for Bridgewater is getting beyond the realm of the curious. It's more in the neighborhood of ridiculous.

NFL cognoscenti seem to flock together: It's a copycat league. Strangely, though, there's little copying of what works among quarterbacks at the pro level. Football minds keep gravitating to the quarterbacks who show unrefined physical prowess over those who have a clear track record on the field. You'd think GMs would learn their lesson after watching Tom Brady and Drew Brees win Super Bowls. Instead, the chase seems to be on for the next Jeff George. Only a month or so after Bridgewater finished his college career, Russell Wilson won the Super Bowl with the Seahawks. Wilson also had four interceptions in his final college season at Wisconsin, against 33 touchdowns. His completion percentage (72.8) was also comparable to Bridgewater's (71.0). Wilson went in the third round, and most thought he would be a first-round pick if he were just a little bit taller. Bridgewater is just a little bit taller: 6-foot-2 to Wilson's 5-11. Is it a second chance to draft a seasoned passer like Wilson?

Teddy Bridgewater's decision to throw without gloves on pro day didn't help him. (AP)
Or is it a second chance to whiff? Bridgewater is drifting in credibility while former Pitt quarterback Tom Savage, who transferred twice and never got close to the statistical display shown consistently by Bridgewater, is perhaps the hottest name in the draft. Savage is 6-5 with a big arm, and he reminds scouts of Nick Foles, who switched his commitment from Arizona State to Michigan State and then left East Lansing for Arizona. So transferring is now a good sign?

What's even sillier about all this is Bridgewater had lots of decision-making responsibility at the line of scrimmage at Louisville. He took over as starter at age 18 and threw for nearly 10,000 yards over three seasons. His interception count dropped from 12 in his first year to 8 to 4. His intelligence and work ethic have never been questioned, and any concerns about his ability to beat top teams vanished more than a year ago, when Bridgewater dissected a Florida defense considered one of the best in the nation led by coordinator Dan Quinn, who would leave after that Sugar Bowl for the Seahawks and a Super Bowl title. Savage's only comparable game came in 2013 when he took on title-bound Florida State and threw for 201 yards and two interceptions.

So what happened to Bridgewater? For one thing, he had a poor pro day. He took off his throwing gloves for the occasion a decision that a good agent would have talked him out of and he looked wobbly. For many draft experts, it was the first live look at Bridgewater, and it didn't go well. How that one day in an artificial football laboratory undoes three full years of actual play is hard to figure.

But that's what's happened. Experts like Mayock have looked back at the game film and found new flaws in Bridgewater: his deep balls aren't as crisp; his outside-the-hashes targets aren't as accurate. Why that didn't result in more than four interceptions last season is anyone's guess. Perhaps American Athletic Conference defenses are simply inferior. Though that hasn't hurt UCF's Blake Bortles' draft stock much.

The other worry about Bridgewater is his size. Not his height, but his heft. According to his NFL.com combine profile, Bridgewater is 214 pounds and has a "very lean, narrow frame with limited bulk." In fact, a major chunk of the "weaknesses" section of that report has to do with Bridgewater's thickness. "Long term durability could become a concern," it says, "without continued strength and weight gains."
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Bridgewater threw only four interceptions last season. (USA Today)
Well, about that: Bridgewater needed jaw surgery during college and dropped from 222 pounds to 196. He's put most of that weight back on, and he's likely to add even more bulk once he gets into a nutrition program with his new team. He's only 21, and likely to get bigger as he matures. Bortles, by the way, is a year older than Bridgewater and Savage is nearly three. It's hard to argue their potential is greater than Bridgewater's just because they have less starting experience.

And as for durability, just revisit the November night in 2012 when Louisville traveled to Rutgers with a BCS bid in the balance. Bridgewater didn't start, as he had a broken wrist and a badly sprained ankle. But he asked to go into the game when the Cardinals fell behind, and promptly rallied them from 11 points down to win. Rutgers coach Kyle Flood called it one of the greatest college performances he's ever seen.

It's easy to wonder if racism is in play here. Alex Smith's draft preview reads almost exactly like Bridgewater's and he went first overall. Now he's a veteran starter for a playoff team. But instead of something nefarious, Bridgewater's fall is more likely because draft experts gravitate to big: big arms, big bodies and big personalities. Statistics and winning are easily dismissed as products of a system. Just ask former Cal standout Aaron Rodgers.

Bridgewater isn't a big talker there wasn't even a Heisman campaign for him so he's not going to pump his own tires. That might be hurting him too, especially compared to the always-entertaining Johnny Manziel, who had a former U.S. president at his pro day.

But if you want an egoless, driven, smart and proven quarterback to lead your wayward franchise, you could do worse than to part with the growing majority of the draft experts and pick Teddy Bridgewater.

The consequences for those who pass on him will certainly be "measurable."
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Old 04-28-2014, 03:04 PM   #36
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I would cry I we drafted him and they would be happy tears.
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Providing they both have the requisite Wonderlic scores (I expect they do), the QBs most likely to succeed from this class are AJ McCarron and Aaron Murray, if you use the combined Bill Parcells and 26-27-60 formula to project potential at the position. You can all read about those metrics, so I wont' post here, but none of the other QBs in the top 10 meet all of the criteria.
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