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Old 04-28-2014, 03:06 PM  
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#23 – Kansas City Chiefs – Brandin Cooks – WR – Oregon State

Andy Reid loves receivers who can run and few do it better in this 2014 NFL mock draft. Brandin Cooks doesn’t have much height to offer at 5’10″ but his speed, agility, hands and vision make him something the Kansas City Chiefs don’t have, and should want.


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Old 04-30-2014, 10:11 PM   #31
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Who were the last under 6 foot receivers drafted in the first who went on to have a good NFL career?

Desean Smith? Steve Smith?
Those guys weren't 1st round picks.
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Old 04-30-2014, 10:21 PM   #32
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Who were the last under 6 foot receivers drafted in the first who went on to have a good NFL career?

Desean Smith? Steve Smith?
So far Kendall Wright has been pretty good for the Titans. However, that's because he made the move to primarily being a slot receiver in 2013 because he struggled on the outside. Also have to consider the fact that he doesn't score very many TDs and isn't a red zone threat by any stretch of imagination.
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Old 04-30-2014, 10:25 PM   #33
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Better question: How many small, fast, and quick WRs under 5'10" have been successful in the NFL with long and productive careers as true #1 WRs in the sense that Julio Jones, Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, AJ Green, Demaryius Thomas, and Brandon Marshall are #1 WRs?

The only one I can think of is Steve Smith in his prime. But even he had issues in the red zone.

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Old 05-01-2014, 08:50 PM   #34
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Cooks won't be there at 23 if I'm a betting man. He will go somewhere between 15 and 20 IMHO.
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Old 05-01-2014, 08:56 PM   #35
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Cooks is small with an equally small catch radius. In the right system, he can flourish primarily as a slot receiver who doesn't have to face press coverage too often. Or he could end up having a Tavon Austin-esque rookie season and struggle to do anything notable as a receiver.
If the Rams would have had a decent O-line to keep Bradford upright I assure you Austin would have benefited greatly. With that being said, you could make the argument that Bradford is heading down the David Carr road of being psychologically ruined because the organization continues to let Bradford run for his life/get demolished.

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Old 05-01-2014, 09:24 PM   #36
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If the Rams would have had a decent O-line to keep Bradford upright I assure Austin would have benefited greatly. With that being said, you could make the argument that Bradford is heading down the David Carr road of being psychologically ruined because the organization continues to let Bradford run for his life/get demolished.
David Carr got demoished because of David Carr.
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Old 05-01-2014, 09:27 PM   #37
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You want to draft a guy that has fantastic hands, runs great routes and put up sick production in college, and has a real man's body/frame then go get BYU's Cody Hoffman..
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So why is Cody Hoffman seen as a 5th rounder at best?
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So why is Cody Hoffman seen as a 5th rounder at best?
Because he is mediocre. He's slow and can't get open at the next level. Plus he crapped all over himself at the Senior Bowl.

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He's totally overhyped.

The dude couldn't jump over a phone book, is short and runs a 4.8 40. I'm actually shocked that guys have in him the first three rounds.

You want to draft a guy that has fantastic hands, runs great routes and put up sick production in college, and has a real man's body/frame then go get BYU's Cody Hoffman. He's the exact same guy as Landry, with the exception of being 5" taller, 20+ lbs. heavier and faster (4.65 vs. Landry's 4.77 40 yard dash). Might even be there in the fifth/sixth round versus pissing a third or fourth rounder away on Landry.

If this team drafts ****ing Jarvis Landry with anything other than a UDFA contract, Imma gunna be pissed. **** that.
Sac pimping another Utah kid. Shocker.
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Because he is mediocre. He's slow and can't get open at the next level. Plus he crapped all over himself at the Senior Bowl.
But yet a 5'11" guy named Landy, who is slower (4.77 versus Cody's 4.65), shorter, is worthy of a high round pick?

And that's my point - Landry is 5" shorter, slower and has roughly the same vertical as both Hoffman and Abbrederis - two receivers who have had substantially more production over their entire careers than Landry, who only started 12 games at LSU. But everyone is all over Landry's jock for whatever reason versus guys like Hoffman and Abbrederis.

And anyone basing anything off the Senior Bowl is an idiot.

Ryan Sims anyone?
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David Carr got demoished because of David Carr.
Carr was not totally innocent BUT the Texans O-line during his tenure was damn near non-existent. And not becoming highly skittish year after year running for your life was highly unlikely for anyone. His confidence was ruined by the end of his 3rd yr IMO. By the time Kubiak got there Carr was done and he knew it and so did Kubiak.
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