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Old 03-26-2006, 08:20 AM  
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Fantastic Column re: Religion and Government

I couldn't agree more. As a Christian, who is very serious about his faith, it's hard to constantly be portrayed as "attacking" Christianity for wanting it out of my government (I do want to attack Christmas, though.,..it's got to go). This article couldn't do a better job of summing up my feelings.

(I will post it in the next post, so if this thread goes more than 1 page, you won't have to scroll past it every time you go to another page.)

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/14179181.htm
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Old 05-05-2014, 08:53 PM   #31
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JMO, but we got along fine without "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance from the time Francis Bellamy wrote it in 1892 until some politicans in the 50's decided it would be a politically expedient way to help fight the "Godless Red Hordes".

Sadly, along the same lines, in 1956 we traded our traditional national motto (bequeathed to us by the nations founders) "E Pluribus Unum" , for one, IMO, based on wishful thinking: "In God We Trust".

The political rhetoric of No Law but Gods Law (Which God? Which set of laws?) flew thick in the 50's, and here are the same bad ideas back again. The only difference is now the theocrats are better organized, and ironically allied with Mammon.

Bill Tammeus is one hell of a clear thinker and a solid writer, from my perspective.

I'm with you on a few points, Kotter. I consider the Torah, Talmud, Tanak, Bible, and Quran, fascinating books, with much to consider. My own library includes those, the Tao Te Ching, Confucian writings, and Vedic texts like the Mahabarata, among others. I'm not a "believer", but can appreciate the philosophies, histories, and ideals communicated in many of these works. I think our difference comes in the perspective from which they are read. You from the believers POV, and I from the skeptics.

Wandered off the point a bit (as I am wont to do when a bit fershnickered), but in closing I'd just like to say I am a strongly traditional conservative when it comes to the Pledge and National Motto, and would like them restored to their original forms before they became political footballs.
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High Tech is Sorcery and the people who are really powerful are literally telling people to commit crimes using the psychic interspace created by the WWW and Wireless. They are controlling peoples actions like drones . The two things are deeply intertwined. The more man's brain interfaces with machines the creepier it gets. They use brains separate from a human body in a supercomputer and you have The Image of the Beast. The military has been doing this since the 50s
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Old 05-05-2014, 09:36 PM   #32
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Meaning the five conservatives (Roberts, Thomas, Alito, Kennedy, and Scalia, who were nominated by Republicans), and the four liberals (Ginsberg, Sotomayor, Kagan, and Breyer, who were nominated by Democrats).
Looking at Anthony Kennedy's SC record, I didnt know he was conservative.
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Old 05-06-2014, 12:31 AM   #33
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May 5th 2014 supreme court decision Town of Greece vs Galloway
Well, that's all hunky dory right up until we hear that some town in the U.S. has elected a Muslim majority city council. You'll hear some screaming then, you'd better bet.

Personally, I prefer my Jesus without the cheapening taint of government, thanks very much.
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Old 05-06-2014, 06:17 AM   #34
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