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Old 05-07-2014, 06:22 PM  
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Meanshile, the IRS scandal is heating up...

Washington Post: There are plenty of smidgens in the IRS scandal
BY ED ROGERS

Today, the House Rules Committee is considering a resolution recommending that former IRS official Lois Lerner be held in contempt for refusing to answer questions about her role in the IRS targeting of President Obama’s political opponents. It is likely that the resolution will pass, and then it will come to the floor for a full vote in the House. When it does, the vote to hold Lerner in contempt should be bipartisan – if not unanimous. Any Democrats who vote “no” should be labeled as enablers of obstruction of justice. It should be impossible for Democrats to defend a vote that could only serve to encourage more corruption and non-cooperation in the future. Of course Lerner had the right to plead the fifth, but that doesn’t mean Democrats should not pay a price for voting to bless her stonewalling.

In an interview with Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly in February, President Obama pre-empted his own Department of Justice investigation and declared that there was not a “smidgen of corruption” in the IRS scandal. Well, I think a senior official at the center of the allegations pleading the fifth constitutes a smidgen. It is not unfair to draw logical inferences from her continued refusal to cooperate with the investigation into the IRS targeting of conservative groups. To the best of my knowledge, no one in this White House has ever called on Lerner to cooperate. Why? Because they know it is not in their interest for her to cooperate. They hope she will continue her silence in comfortable retirement and that Republicans and the media will be intimidated into giving up. Or, at the very least, they hope they can run out the clock on the remainder of Obama’s term.

Meanwhile, at the Justice Department, the White House has built a firewall by appointing Obama donor Barbara Bosserman to head the investigation into the IRS affair. No smidgens here folks. Move along, nothing to see. Please. Someone in this Administration is guilty of manipulating the IRS – or, is guilty of knowing that the IRS was engaging in activities that targeted the president’s political opponents. There are smidgens lying all over the place.

The very idea that the administration would protect someone who is hiding behind the fifth when there is not only smoke, but there is actually a clear glow of flames, is insulting. The 2014 election should be about the economy and Obamacare. We don’t need to keep adding exclamation points to every new Benghazi revelation. But at least the IRS scandal is related to the two election issues that really matter. The whole IRS debacle should be a bottomless pit of outrage, demands, select committees and whatever else from Republicans in Congress.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...e-irs-scandal/
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Old 05-10-2014, 07:30 PM   #61
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Lighten up Francis...IRS person says on TV she is not good at math. It's just funny.
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Old 05-10-2014, 07:37 PM   #62
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Lighten up Francis...IRS person says on TV she is not good at math. It's just funny.
It would have been a whole lot funnier to our liberal friends if she was a republican appointed cabinet member and John Stewart would have shown the clip and then given his patented WTF look.
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Old 05-10-2014, 07:46 PM   #63
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I wonder how many will be redacted.
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Just like the White House did with Benghazi? Oops, must have missed a few there. Plus a bunch of them had outside accounts to do business they didn't want going into the public record
We are dealing with Chicago politics on a national and global level so yes you are both correct and you can expect a tidy neat "no smoking gun" info to be displayed.
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Old 06-10-2014, 05:30 PM   #64
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http://online.wsj.com/articles/irs-s...say-1402339311
Report: IRS Sent Database Containing Confidential Taxpayer Information to FBI
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The Internal Revenue Service may have been caught violating federal tax law: In October 2010, the agency sent a database on 501(c)(4) social-welfare groups containing confidential taxpayer information to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, according to documents obtained by a House panel.

The information was transmitted in advance of former IRS official Lois Lerner’s meeting the same month with Justice Department officials about the possibility of using campaign-finance laws to prosecute certain nonprofit groups. E-mails between Lerner and Richard Pilger, the director of the Justice Department’s election-crimes branch, obtained through a subpoena to Attorney General Eric Holder, show Lerner asking about the format in which the FBI preferred the data to be sent.

“This revelation that the IRS sent 1.1 million pages of nonprofit tax-return data — including confidential taxpayer information — to the FBI confirms suspicions that the IRS worked with the Justice Department to facilitate the potential investigation of nonprofit groups engaged in lawful political speech,” Oversight Committee chairman Darrell Issa, a California Republican, and subcommittee chairman Jim Jordan wrote in a letter to IRS commissioner John Koskinen. The two lawmakers also raise questions about the timing of the meeting, just weeks before the 2010 midterm elections, when Republicans recaptured a majority in the House of Representatives.
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Old 06-13-2014, 03:36 PM   #65
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IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

http://news.yahoo.com/irs-computer-c...203605784.html
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Old 06-13-2014, 03:40 PM   #66
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Old 06-13-2014, 04:33 PM   #67
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Wow. It gets better and better. Nothing to see here.

IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

http://news.yahoo.com/irs-computer-c...203605784.html
....and Bigfoot's hanging out in my backyard
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Old 06-13-2014, 04:35 PM   #68
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IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

http://news.yahoo.com/irs-computer-c...203605784.html
that is some serious corruption.
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Old 06-13-2014, 04:37 PM   #69
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Unfortunately for Lois and the IRS, e-mail is kind of a two way street so whomever she sent e-mails to I am sure has those "lost" e-mails
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that is some serious corruption.
Cosmo is totally cool with it as long as it favors the Dems and Obama.
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Old 06-13-2014, 04:41 PM   #71
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Unfortunately for Lois and the IRS, e-mail is kind of a two way street so whomever she sent e-mails to I am sure has those "lost" e-mails
it should be on the servers and any larger organization such as the IRS should have backup tapes.
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Old 06-13-2014, 04:50 PM   #73
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What about those email accounts that were used OFF the government accounts to try and hide and not show on the public record? Where are those?
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it should be on the servers and any larger organization such as the IRS should have backup tapes.
The NSA some how cannot track this? They keep records of every ****ing thing else~
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Spoliation of Evidence

Spoliation of evidence is a term often used during the process of discovery. Spoliation of evidence happens when a document or information that is required for discovery is destroyed or altered significantly. If a person negligently or intentionally withholds or destroys relevant information that will be required in an action is liable for spoliation of evidence.

When a crucial document is lost by spoliation, the courts may try to infer the original information by applying spoliation inference rule. Spoliation inference rule is a negative evidentiary inference. When applying the rule, courts will review the altered document with inference against the spoliator and in favor of the opposing party. The theory behind spoliation inference is that when a party has destroyed evidence, it shows that the party had consciousness of guilt or other reasons to avoid evidence. Hence, the court will conclude that the evidence was not in spoliator’s favor.

Likewise Title 18 of United States Code Sections 1503, 1510, 1512 and 1519 prohibits a party from destroying or assisting another in destroying evidence, and provides for criminal prosecution against the wrongdoer. Under Title 18 United States Code Section 1519, a wrongdoer can be fined in huge amounts and imprisoned up to 20 years.
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