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Old 05-01-2014, 01:11 PM  
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Why Benghazi should matter to every American

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Why Benghazi should matter to every American

The mainstream media declared the Benghazi story insignificant long ago. To the extent it is covered, the focus is usually on the horrific and unnecessary deaths of four Americans. The Obama administration dismisses it as a lot of fuss about a few silly talking points.

But everybody is missing the big-picture story of the Benghazi affair and its cover-up. Itís about the White House using the intelligence community for its own political purposes, and lying to the American public in order to win an election. Itís about abuse of power, and that is a big deal.

Thatís why the administration cannot be allowed to investigate itself. Thatís why it is time for Congress to appoint a special committee to get to the bottom of the story.

Benghazi is no longer just a political issue. Itís not just a partisan witch hunt. It goes to the heart of what our system of government is all about.

If it turns out that Benghazi and the cover-up were just a series of junior level mistakes, that is the end of it. But if it turns out the administration was using the military and intelligence communities for political purposes prior to the attack, during the attack and in a subsequent cover-up, it must be held accountable. Because once the precedent is set, future administrations will feel no reluctance to do the same.

America has the most powerful military and intelligence services in the world, probably in the history of the world. They have an infrastructure that endures separately and beyond any administration or politician.

At the same time, the military-intelligence complex takes its orders from the American people, through their elected/appointed representatives in the White House and Cabinet.

Itís a sacred trust at the heart of our Constitution, as set out in civilian control of the military. But it comes at a price Ė that our civilian leaders do not abuse that power and bend the military and intelligence communities to do their political dirty work.

The president doesnít order the military to seize political opponents. He doesnít order his intelligence community to lie about national security for political purposes. He uses the military or intelligence communities to protect the United States and our citizens, not to help him win elections.

Thatís the heart of the Benghazi scandal and cover-up. The White House twisted intelligence to suit its political needs.

I was part of the Nixon administration during Watergate. I was a junior staffer on the National Security Council and helped keep the classified files. At the heart of the Watergate investigation was the presidentís abuse of power Ė secretly using the intelligence community for political purposes and then using the intelligence community for cover when it became public.

It was a difficult time for the nation, and certainly for anyone in the White House. But it was necessary, especially in hindsight. It wasnít just about a president lying to the American people. It was a check on the seemingly unlimited power of the president to use the military and civilian career government bureaucracy for his own political goals.

It is now incumbent on the congressional leadership to act. There have been countless hearings into Benghazi by numerous congressional committees, but none have had subpoena power to demand the paper trail, or to force government workers to testify about what they knew and when they knew it.

The questions at the heart of the Benghazi scandal and cover-up are specifically:

1. Did the White House fail to provide adequate security at the Benghazi consulate because it didnít want to acknowledge that a terrorist threat remained, even though Bin Laden was dead?

2. Did the White House order the intelligence community to change its analysis so the president could claim his policy was a success, rather than a failure, just a few weeks before an election?

3. And, finally, what was the relationship between an overzealous White House staff and the president himself? What did the president know, and when did he know it?

This is no longer just a political issue. Itís not just a partisan witch hunt. It goes to the heart of what our system of government is all about. Thatís why itís time for Congress to act and create a bipartisan special committee to get to the bottom of this, once and for all.

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Old 05-09-2014, 02:57 PM   #526
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W kept boots to a minimum in Afghanistan because he sent all the boots to Iraq. He instead used our technological might? WTF are you talking about?
Well we were in Afghanistan first when we had Zero troops in Iraq. So we certainly had more available than the 5000 ish we started with. By leaning heavily on our Air assets were able to help the Norther Alliance facilitate a regime change. After that troop levels grew gradually in Afghanistan. I had a Daughter in Iraq and Son-inlaw in Afganistan so I did pay attention. Oh hell nevermind I don't think I want to go through the last 13 years just to get to the starting point of a discussion. I'm 3 minutes from Beer -30 I'm out
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Old 05-09-2014, 09:51 PM   #527
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As long as you're referring to Jimmy MOTHER ****ING Carter!!!
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Old 05-10-2014, 07:41 AM   #528
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I wonder how long the get out of jail free card of “ yeah but look at what Obama did” will work for the next Republican POTUS? I really hope not this long.

We are on about year 14 of Bushama apparently no level of dishonesty or Incompetence no matter how egregious will ever make us question our Dear Leader for he is one of us, a Republicrat. We must stick together for if we do not a Demlican will take power and we will no longer be served by this quality of Government.
Please try to understand this isn't about how bad Bush was.

This is about how the Faux News helped Americans yawn at being lied into a War that killed thousands of Americans.

When the President lies the nation into a war and the country doesn't blink thanks to the Faux News for 8 years, you are not just going to turn the outrage back on because of a talking point for anyone that isn't a faux news rube.

Americans don't care about Benghazi because Americans didn't care about being lied into a War.

And this but but Bush only helps cement that opinion. Its still basically saying, yea don't care about being lied into a war that killed thousands and wasted billions of dollars, care about a talking point.

Most people will go... um, Im not going to care about a talking point if Im not suppose to care about being lied into a war.

Want people to get outraged at Benghazi? Stop trying sweeping things that are worse under the rug.
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:52 AM   #529
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Please try to understand this isn't about how bad Bush was.

This is about how the Faux News helped Americans yawn at being lied into a War that killed thousands of Americans.

When the President lies the nation into a war and the country doesn't blink thanks to the Faux News for 8 years, you are not just going to turn the outrage back on because of a talking point for anyone that isn't a faux news rube.

Americans don't care about Benghazi because Americans didn't care about being lied into a War.

And this but but Bush only helps cement that opinion. Its still basically saying, yea don't care about being lied into a war that killed thousands and wasted billions of dollars, care about a talking point.

Most people will go... um, Im not going to care about a talking point if Im not suppose to care about being lied into a war.

Want people to get outraged at Benghazi? Stop trying sweeping things that are worse under the rug.
LOL, Bush was awesome!

And NO liberal should EVER talk about the good and moral side of the isle being liars. Really, the mother****er in office is the most scamming dickhead to ever step foot in the White House, and the Clintons are a close second.

If there's one thing the republicans should have learned from the Clinton and Obama administrations if that they need to stretch the truth A ****-LOT MORE!
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Old 05-12-2014, 08:23 PM   #531
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Doing away with sourcing completely now, are we?

Allow me. It was on The McLaughlin Group.



Also, she's a dope.
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Old 05-12-2014, 08:27 PM   #532
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Doing away with sourcing completely now, are we?

Allow me. It was on The McLaughlin Group.



Also, she's a dope.
That same clip was in my link if you would have bothered to look.
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Old 05-12-2014, 08:28 PM   #533
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Doing away with sourcing completely now, are we?

Allow me. It was on The McLaughlin Group.



Also, she's a dope.
Sourcing changes what she said entirely. Good Catch.
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That same clip was in my link if you would have bothered to look.
Did you by any chance edit it in later? I saw the thing as soon as you posted it and left the screen open while I look it up, and then inevitably got distracted for a few minutes before hitting Submit.
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Did you by any chance edit it in later? I saw the thing as soon as you posted it and left the screen open while I look it up, and then inevitably got distracted for a few minutes before hitting Submit.
Yes I did. I inadvertently hit submit before I had the link added. Bad on my part.
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Not a problem. I hereby rescind my snark.

And she's still a dope.
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Not a problem. I hereby rescind my snark.

And she's still a dope.
Snark was never taken seriously. Like I said, my mistake.
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Please try to understand this isn't about how bad Bush was.

This is about how the Faux News helped Americans yawn at being lied into a War that killed thousands of Americans.

When the President lies the nation into a war and the country doesn't blink thanks to the Faux News for 8 years, you are not just going to turn the outrage back on because of a talking point for anyone that isn't a faux news rube.
Obama lied us into Libya.

Obama's illegal and unConstitutional bombing for regime change in Libya relied on a pretext too. It was supposed to be humanitarian because the govt was harming the people. LOL!

Oh and you forgot how plenty of other media, not just Fox, were fully on board for invading Iraq. Let's start with the New York Times. Little investigative journalism is being done these days and it's worse under Obama.

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Americans don't care about Benghazi because Americans didn't care about being lied into a War.
No, Americans are tired of these nonsensical military interventions and being lied to about the reasons we need to do them. Some other bad event is used as a pretext. There's little emphasis on questioning the need to be in these places. It's only when a Republican president does it. Okay when Clinton intervened in the Balkans. But once you're there you protect your people.

Now, lets talk about our CIA in Ukraine under Obama. I hear more intervention is coming. Look at LBJ's lies for Vietnam. The fact is it was the Democrats who got us involved in more wars during the 20th century than Republicans--and lied about getting involved.

American FP is the same no matter which party sits in the WH if you're observant. It's run by our Philosopher Kings aka our egg-head elites known as The Establishment. It's not really run by a president alone.

Wake up! Obama is Bush on steroids. He would have gone into Syria had not the American people got on the phones or used email to say the didn't want to. Meanwhile, Turkey is carrying out things we'd be doing in Syria., but their lackey's of D.C.
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Now, lets talk about our CIA in Ukraine under Obama. I hear more intervention is coming. Look at LBJ's lies for Vietnam. The fact is it was the Democrats who got us involved in more wars during the 20th century than Republicans--and lied about getting involved.

American FP is the same no matter which party sits in the WH if you're observant. It's run by our Philosopher Kings aka our egg-head elites known as The Establishment. It's not really run by a president alone.

Wake up! Obama is Bush on steroids. He would have gone into Syria had not the American people got on the phones or used email to say the didn't want to. Meanwhile, Turkey is carrying out things we'd be doing in Syria., but their lackey's of D.C.
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Rep. Adam B. Schiff, D-Calif., said Thursday that a House Intelligence Committee investigative report on Benghazi that the panel voted to approve reaches “noncontroversial conclusions” and that it should be declassified swiftly. Schiff serves on the Intelligence panel as well as the new Republican-created select committee investigating the 2012 attack on the U.S. diplomatic facility in Libya.

His full statement:

The Intelligence Committee report adds to the body of investigative work now completed by numerous committees in Congress, and reaches the same noncontroversial conclusions – that the initial talking points provided by the intelligence community were flawed because of conflicting assessments not an intention to deceive, that there was no stand down order, that the diplomatic facilities lacked adequate security, and that our personnel at the scene acted bravely and appropriately.

This bipartisan report should be declassified quickly, so that the American people may know what we have learned behind closed doors, and how it concurs with other analysis already made public.
Time for a new panel to this time FINALLY get to the bottom of everything I guess.
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