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Old 05-13-2014, 12:17 PM  
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Dorsey: "8-10 legitimate trade discussions" during the draft

I'll double check the podcast later to make sure I heard the numbers right, but it was a brief answer during the final four of an interview with Petro on 810 a few minutes ago. He added that they were extremely active on the phones this year.

Just thought I'd mention it, since there's been some recent concern voiced about how active the team was(n't) moving draft picks around this weekend.
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Old 05-13-2014, 06:19 PM   #46
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It takes at least 2 teams to do a deal.

both have to be satisfied with what they're getting/giving up.

Sometimes both parties don't agree and nothing gets done. It happens.

I'm sure we tried to trade Flowers. Maybe we tried to trade Berry to everyone's dislike... Probably didn't like what we were going to get in return.

If the deal isn't there, this isn't something you just say "**** it" and do it anyways. We probably didn't like the return so we said forget it.
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Old 05-13-2014, 06:37 PM   #47
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Or pick a QB at 1.1 just to pick a QB at 1.1.
There are far worse decisions you can make.

Like picking a shitty OT at 1.1 just because everybody says you have to
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Old 05-13-2014, 07:55 PM   #48
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I'll double check the podcast later to make sure I heard the numbers right, but it was a brief answer during the final four of an interview with Petro on 810 a few minutes ago. He added that they were extremely active on the phones this year.

Just thought I'd mention it, since there's been some recent concern voiced about how active the team was(n't) moving draft picks around this weekend.
Which means the opportunities were there and they still didn't pursue them.

Still doesn't tell us anything cause we don't know what was offered. It's hard to imagine though they couldn't have found one deal good enough to still get a decent player on their board and move back to acquire another pick that would have allowed them to draft 1 F-ing WR out of the 33 taken!

Can we call G.B. Today and trade one of our picks for next year for one of the three WR's they took in this years draft!?
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Old 05-13-2014, 07:59 PM   #49
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I expect I'm the minority on this, but if Ford was a/the guy they had targeted, and they think he's going to be a special talent, then I think they were right to take him.

Sometimes you just have to trust your scouting...
It's not just about rd 1.
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Old 05-13-2014, 08:04 PM   #50
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I think that (within reason), it's usually better to overpay a bit and get the guy you want than to try to scrape up some late round pick and put it all to chance.

A third rounder is probably not going to change the team, but getting the first rounder you want or not getting him may in fact change the team.
You do realize that Joe Montana, Jamaal Charles and Justin Houston just to name a few were drafted in the third round right?
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Old 05-13-2014, 08:27 PM   #51
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It's hard to imagine though they couldn't have found one deal good enough to still get a decent player on their board and move back to acquire another pick that would have allowed them to draft 1 F-ing WR out of the 33 taken!
It's not hard to imagine at all.

And I think people get too hung up on the WR label. DAT should have a prominent role.
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Old 05-13-2014, 08:34 PM   #52
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Dorsey has failed miserably this offseason.

Yes the Chiefs had a tough situation… not much salary cap space, lots of free agents, only 6 draft picks, etc., but a creative GM finds a way to still maximize opportunities to improve the team.

Dorsey hasn't done that… in free agency or in the draft.
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Old 05-13-2014, 09:09 PM   #53
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Dorsey isn't smart enough to pull a trade like the 49ers or Browns.
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Dorsey has failed miserably this offseason.

Yes the Chiefs had a tough situation… not much salary cap space, lots of free agents, only 6 draft picks, etc., but a creative GM finds a way to still maximize opportunities to improve the team.

Dorsey hasn't done that… in free agency or in the draft.
This.

8 chances to move - found way to **** up each time.
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8 chances to move - found way to **** up each time.
So would it be worth it to forfeit the 2014 1st round pick to pick up an early 3rd rounder and a handful of sixths or something?
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So would it be worth it to forfeit the 2014 1st round pick to pick up an early 3rd rounder and a handful of sixths or something?
We used every second of clock given for our first round pick. The card was turned it with like 10 seconds left.

That wasn't trading up - there was no up. We were trying to trade down. That's gaining picks.

No one knows how many of the 8 were with that 1st pick but it's pretty damned obvious at least one was...
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I expect I'm the minority on this, but if Ford was a/the guy they had targeted, and they think he's going to be a special talent, then I think they were right to take him.

Sometimes you just have to trust your scouting...
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