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Old 05-23-2014, 11:22 PM  
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Early Position Rankings for 2015

QB

1. Jameis Winston, FSU
2. Marcus Mariota, Oregon
3. Sean Mannion, Oregon St.
4. Bryce Petty, Baylor
5. Brett Hundley, UCLA
6. Braxton Miller, Ohio St.
7. Kevin Hogan, Stanford
8. Taylor Heart, Arizona St.

RB

1. Todd Gurley, Georgia
2. Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin
3. Karlos Williams, FSU
4. Duke Johnson, Miami
5. Mike Davis, South Carolina
6. T.J. Yeldon, Alabama
7. Keith Marshall, Georgia
8. Kenyan Drake, Alabama
9. Ameer Abdullah, Nebraska
10. Malcolm Brown, Texas
11. Michael Dyer, Louisville

WR

1. Amari Cooper, Alabama
2. Stefon Diggs, Maryland
3. Nelson Agholor, USC
4. DaVante Parker, Louisville
5. Dorial Green-Beckham
6. Jaelen Strong, Arizona St.
7. Rashad Greene, FSU
8. Tyler Lockett, Kansas St.
9. Malcolm Mitchell, Georgia
10. Ty Montgomery, Stanford
11. Kasen Williams, Washington
12. Davaris Daniels, Notre Dame
13. Antwan Goodley, Baylor
14. Christion Jones, Alabama
15. Phillip Dorsett, Miami

TE

1. Devin Funchess, Michigan
2. Nick O'Leary, FSU
3. Pharaoh Brown, Oregon
4. Jeff Heuerman, Ohio St.
5. Cameron Clear, Texas A&M
6. Ben Koyack, Notre Dame
7. Randall Telfer, USC
8. Clive Walford, Miami
9. Brian Volger, Alabama

OT

1. Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M
2. Andrus Peat, Stanford
3. Cameron Erving, FSU
4. Brandon Scherff, Iowa
5. La'el Collins, LSU
6. Jason Brown, Louisville
7. Sean Hickey, Syracuse
8. Corey Robinson, South Carolina
9. Ereck Flowers, Miami
10. Darryl Williams, Oklahoma

OG

1. Landon Turner, North Carolina
2. Arie Kouandjio , Alabama
3. Josue Matias, FSU
4. Tre Richardson, FSU
5. Vadal Alexander, LSU
6. Jon Feliciano, Miami
7. Bobby Hart, FSU
8. A.J. Cann, South Carolina
9. Malcolm Bunche, UCLA

C

1. Hroniss Grasu, Oregon
2. Reese Dismukes, Auburn
3. David Andrews, Georgia
4. Chad Lindsay, Alabama


DE

1. Randy Gregory, Nebraska
2. Shilique Calhoun, Michigan St.
3. Mario Edwards, FSU
4. Xavier Cooper, Washington St.
5. Arik Armstead, Oregon
6. Shawn Oakman, Baylor
7. Noah Spence, Ohio St.
8. Dante Fowler, Florida
9. Cedric Reed, Texas
10. Henry Anderson, Stanford
11. Charles Tapper, Oklahoma
12. Za'Darius Smith, Kentucky
13. Lorenzo Mauldin, Louisville
14. Anthony Chickillo, Miami

DT

1. Leonard Williams. USC
2. Michael Bennett, Ohio State
3. Ellis McCarthy, UCLA
4. Danny Shelton, Washington
5. Brandon Ivory, Alabama
6. Malcolm Brown, Texas
7. Luther Maddy, Virginia Tech
8. Antwaun Woods. USC
9. Travis Raciti, San Jose St.

ILB

1. Ben McKinney, Mississippi St.
2. Denzel Perryman, Miami
3. Ramik Wilson, Georgia
4. Hayes Pullard, USC
5. Trey DePriest, Alabama
6. Erick Kendricks, UCLA
7. A.J. Tarpley, Stanford

OLB

1. Vic Beasley, Clemson
2. Jordan Jenkins, Georgia
3. Cassanova McKinzy, Auburn
4. Kyler Fackrell, Utah St.
5. Cory James, Colorado St.
6. Jake Ryan, Michigan
7. Jordan Hicks, Texas
8. Xzavier Dickson, Alabama
9. Ishaq Williams, Notre Dame

CB

1. Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, Oregon
2. Trae Waynes, Michigan St.
3. Ronald Darby, FSU
4. P.J. Williams, FSU
5. Tim Scott, North Carolina
6. Quandre Diggs, Texas
7. Jalen Mills, LSU
8. Blake Countess, Michigan
9. Alex Carter, Stanford
10. Damian Swann, Georiga
11. DeShazor Everrett, Texas A&M.
12. Byron Jones, UConn

S

1. Landon Collins, Alabama
2. Kurt Drummond, Michigan St.
3. Karl Joseph, West Virginia
4. Cody Prewitt, Ole Miss
5. Josh Harvey-Clemons, Georgia
6. Derron Smith, Fresno St.
7. Josh Shaw, USC
8. Tevin McDonald, Eastern Washington
9. Sam Carter, TCU
10. Corey Moore, Georgia

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Old 05-24-2014, 10:33 AM   #2
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Old 05-24-2014, 12:13 PM   #4
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Pfft...

It doesn't matter one iota about position need as it relates to Dorsey's draft.

They will take whatever name the Decision Lens spits out be it a OLB, DE, WR, S, RB, CB, whatever.

They send an army of dudes out there to collect data to input into that software. Until it massively ****s up, Dorsey is going to stand on it in terms of selecting the BPA that his input into the computer says is the BPA.

If there was any doubt that this was the case this draft should have erased it. (As well as his first Chiefs draft.)
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Dorsey doesn't go pure BPA. Need factors into 100% of his picks so far.

And we're going to have a huge need following the release of Flowers and Smith.
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Old 05-24-2014, 01:12 PM   #6
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Dorsey doesn't go pure BPA. Need factors into 100% of his picks so far.

And we're going to have a huge need following the release of Flowers and Smith.
I'm sure that there are a lot of factors utilized in the gathering of data and inputting that into the Decision Lens. I'm not really sure how much he uses the Decision Lens results as it relates to the draft. Is it 100%? Is it a 70/30 split? And I seriously doubt that we'll ever find that out.

However, it seems that need is a lot lower on the list than BPA at this point.

Ford, Gaines and Murray were certainly not high "need" picks, but rather BPA and BPA as assessed by a certain physical parameter determined by Dorsey/DL data versus anything else (most likely as there were outwardly better players available, at least IMO, where these guys were picked as it relates to college production, etc.).

In terms of cornerbacks and need, they just picked up Gaines in the draft. That's addressing that potential need that you've highlighted if Smith and Flowers are released as you've suggested. As such, that need has been mitigated to a certain extent.

However, the WR position still remains the biggest hole on the roster in terms of potential long term production as it relates to personnel on the roster. Avery sucks. Jenkins is nothing but hope at this point. You hope that DAT is as least as good as McCluster was and pray for DeSean Jackson level productivity. He'll most likely beat out Dressler for that returner/slot guy, but I think he'll be in a battle with Albert Wilson, who is a dark horse to really make some noise on the roster IMO. Hemingway is a special teamer ace, #4/5 WR guy material and nothing more. The position is total shit.

I'm still blown away about Gaines over Donte Moncrief. I think that was several magnitudes more of a **** up than Ford over S'ua-Filo.
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Nelson Agholor in the first would be perfect and make me feel much better about missing out on a WR in this years draft. Good size, hands, and speed. I think Reid would love him.
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DGB! Calvin Johnson potential if he can get his off-the-field crap together.
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DGB! Calvin Johnson potential if he can get his off-the-field crap together.
If he gets his shit together I'll be screaming for his name come draft day. Seems like a prospect Dorsey would covet. Great measurables with the tape to go with it and tremendous value.
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If he gets his shit together I'll be screaming for his name come draft day. Seems like a prospect Dorsey would covet. Great measurables with the tape to go with it and tremendous value.
Yup. He runs like a much smaller WR, not sluggish like most 6'4"+ WRs. He has great burst, especially for his size. And he has shown the ability to dominate in the red zone as well. If he stays clean this year, I want him in the 1st. IF he flubs with another weed incident, I'd still take him in the 2nd at worst or 1st if we have a 25 or later pick.
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Yup. He runs like a much smaller WR, not sluggish like most 6'4"+ WRs. He has great burst, especially for his size. And he has shown the ability to dominate in the red zone as well. If he stays clean this year, I want him in the 1st. IF he flubs with another weed incident, I'd still take him in the 2nd at worst or 1st if we have a 25 or later pick.
It's amazing how good this WR class will be again. At least in the first 3 rounds.
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However, it seems that need is a lot lower on the list than BPA at this point.
Good that is what we should be doing.
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