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Old 06-05-2014, 02:09 PM  
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New Home A/C Rec

So, this week my old ass, freon A/C stopped lowering the temp at all. Even before this week, humidity had been running in the 70-75% range. I refilled the coolant late last summer (after cutting the line), so I doubt it's a refrigerant issue. And my utility is offering a $400 energy efficiency credit.

So, any recs on a new A/C brand? Per Consumer Reports, American Std, Rheem, and Trane are the most reliable. House is 1625 sq. ft., so I think 2.5 tons is the right size.

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Old 06-05-2014, 02:17 PM   #2
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I had a goodman for 10 years in my old house. Although it gets some criticism I never had any problems with it
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Old 06-05-2014, 02:24 PM   #3
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I had a goodman for 10 years in my old house. Although it gets some criticism I never had any problems with it
From what I've read, they're either loved or hated and need a quality installer.
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Old 06-05-2014, 02:29 PM   #4
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The only brand I would tell you to stay away from is Goodman. Their units are a lot more noisy all the way around. They put the cheapest parts they can purchase with no loyalty to an manufacturer of products to assemble an piece of HVAC equipment. You never get a compressor that is piped the same so if there is any problems it will cost more to have it worked on because it won't just swap out.
Those units are all good. There is no real difference between a Rheem and or a Ruud. I have installed and serviced both for years. I would also through Carrier and or Bryant in there they are good units with long history of quality products.
As far as sizing the equipment you will be purchasing.
At this point it has nothing to do with the size of your home, it is about the size of the existing duct work in your home. You can only move so much air through a piece of duct with out causing other issues.
If you look on the outdoor unit there should be a label that tells the specifications of the unit. There will be a model and a serial number on there. The model number will normally have the size of the unit as a part of the model number. Also generally it will be in the last 5 digits. Example: 38ETG030300 The 30 designates that this is a 2.5 ton outdoor condensing unit. A 3 ton would have had a 36 in there.
Now if you don't have any complaints about the unit you can go back and should go back with the same size. If you do have complaints you can possibly go 1/2 ton bigger if the duct will allow it or if you can add a register in a room easily off the plenum box or early in the main duct.
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Old 06-05-2014, 02:33 PM   #5
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Old 06-06-2014, 10:19 AM   #6
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The only brand I would tell you to stay away from is Goodman. Their units are a lot more noisy all the way around. They put the cheapest parts they can purchase with no loyalty to an manufacturer of products to assemble an piece of HVAC equipment. You never get a compressor that is piped the same so if there is any problems it will cost more to have it worked on because it won't just swap out.
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Now if you don't have any complaints about the unit you can go back and should go back with the same size. If you do have complaints you can possibly go 1/2 ton bigger if the duct will allow it or if you can add a register in a room easily off the plenum box or early in the main duct.
Thanks! Any installer in Springfield you'd recommend?
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Old 06-06-2014, 10:47 AM   #7
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Had AirServices (on E Grand) change out our 4 ton Rheem a couple of years ago for a York Heat Pump with natural gas backup. The new unit died within 3 days, but from service phone call to cool air again took 4 hours. Haven't had a problem since. Had them look at our air returns as we had cold/hot sports in the house, they added one and increased the others..... much more consistant temp now
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Old 06-06-2014, 10:53 AM   #8
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Thanks! Any installer in Springfield you'd recommend?
Sorry, I have not worked with any install companies up there.
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Old 06-06-2014, 11:46 AM   #9
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Old 06-18-2014, 01:48 PM   #10
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Ended up going with a 14.5 SEER Rheem. Installer is at the house now and is having a bitch of a time putting in the evaporator coil. Drain pipe is above the coil.
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Old 06-18-2014, 01:58 PM   #11
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Ended up going with a 14.5 SEER Rheem. Installer is at the house now and is having a bitch of a time putting in the evaporator coil. Drain pipe is above the coil.
Not sure if you mean the pipe to get the water outside of your home is higher or the drain on the coil is higher......He should be able to reposition the drain pan if that was the case. If for some reason your drain pipe to go out side is higher than the drain on the coil he may have to use a Little Giant pump available at any supply house or Lowes, etc. they are not real expensive. Something they should have picked up on when they came to bid the job.
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Just an example of what they look like and such.
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That makes absolutely no sense.
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That makes absolutely no sense.
I hear antifreeze improves reading comprehension.
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