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Here are the Taliban Terrorists Obama Released to Free POW Bowe Bergdahl

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ghanistan.html

In exchange for Army Sgt. Bowe Berghdahl, the U.S. has released five senior Taliban commanders from the Guantanamo Bay prison. They are considered some of the worst of the worst.
The five Guantanamo detainees released by the Obama administration in exchange for America’s last prisoner of war in Afghanistan, Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, are bad guys. They are top Taliban commanders the group has tried to free for more than a decade.



According to a 2008 Pentagon dossier on Guantanamo Bay inmates, all five men released were considered to be a high risk to launch attacks against the United States and its allies if they were liberated. The exchange shows that the Obama administration was willing to pay a steep price, indeed, for Bergdahl’s freedom. The administration says they will be transferred to Qatar, which played a key role in the negotiations.

In the initial statements released about the deal, the White House declined to name the detainees who would be leaving the Cuba based prison Obama has been trying to close since his first day in office.

A senior U.S. defense official confirmed Saturday that the prisoners to be released include Mullah Mohammad Fazl, Mullah Norullah Noori, Abdul Haq Wasiq, Khairullah Khairkhwa and Mohammed Nabi Omari.

While not as well known as Guantanamo inmates like 9-11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the Taliban 5 were some of the worst outlaws in the U.S. war on terror. And their release will end up replenishing the diminished leadership ranks of the Afghan Taliban at a moment when the United States is winding down the war there.

“They are undoubtedly among the most dangerous Taliban commanders held at Guantanamo,” said Thomas Joscelyn, a senior editor at the Long War Journal who keeps a close watch on developments concerning the detainees left at the Guantanamo Bay prison.

Fazl, for example, was the Taliban’s former deputy defense minister and is wanted by the United Nations for his role in massacres targeting Afghan’s Shi’ite Muslim population.

According to the 2008 Pentagon’s dossier on Fazl disclosed by Wikileaks (PDF), Noori also was a senior Taliban military figure and, according to his Pentagon dossier, was asked personally in 1995 by Osama bin Laden (PDF) to participate in an offensive against northern alliance warlord Rashid Dostum.

Wasiq, a former deputy minister of intelligence, at one point tried to cooperate with U.S. forces in Afghanistan and asked for a GPS system as well as a special radio to communicate with the U.S. military after the U.S. invasion in 2001. His dossier (PDF) says that he was a crucial liaison between the Taliban and other Islamic fundamentalist groups while he was deputy intelligence minister. But the 2008 report also said he was holding out information he had on other top al Qaeda and Taliban leaders during interrogations.

Khairkhwa, a former Taliban governor of Herat, was considered by the Pentagon’s 2008 dossier to be a likely heroin trafficker (PDF). That dossier also says he likely participated in meetings with Iranian officials after 9-11 to help plot attacks on U.S. forces following the invasion.

Iran has worked in some cases with the government that has replaced the Taliban in Afghanistan, but also has been accused by the U.S. military of supplying the Taliban and other insurgent groups with roadside bombs known as improvised explosive devices of IEDs.

Nabi held several military leadership posts for the Taliban and helped organize the al Qaeda/Taliban militias that fought against U.S. and coalition troops in the first year of the war, according to his Pentagon dossier (PDF).

This week’s secret diplomacy was not the first time the U.S. government had engaged the Taliban in an effort to negotiate a prisoner swap for the release of Bergdahl. In 2011, State Department officials held a series of meetings with Taliban leaders in Doha.

In Congress, there was bipartisan opposition to any release of Guantanamo prisoners. After the negotiations were made public in early 2012 by Sen. Dianne Feinstein the Taliban announced they were pulling out of the talks.

In the summer of 2013, the U.S. attempted a Taliban confidence building measure, the opening of a Taliban representative office in the diplomatic enclave inside Doha, Qatar. Karzai was also mistrustful of that effort and his skepticism was validated when the Taliban violated their agreement with the U.S. and raised their flag at the office’s opening, causing Karzai to have a fit and forcing the U.S. to abandon the deal to keep the Taliban office open.

Talks resumed in late 2013 and the Taliban provided a video proof of life to the U.S. military in December 2013, which had been a condition for the U.S. to continue with the negotiations.

Many in Congress will still be opposed to the swap, but lawmakers gave up their right to stop it. A small change in the Fiscal Year 2014 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), which passed last December, now makes it only a requirement that the Defense Secretary notify Congress when releasing Guantanamo prisoners. Before the change, Congressional sign off on any Guantanamo releases would have been needed.

At about 10:30 am eastern standard time, Bergdahl was released from his captors. The handover was peaceful and happened in eastern Afghanistan along the border, according to a senior U.S. Defense official. U.S. special operations forces conducted the rescue.

The official said that once he was on the helicopter, Bergdahl wrote on a paper plate (writing instead of talking because it was so loud) “SF?” The operators sitting with Bergdahl responded loudly, saying, yes, we’ve been looking for you for a long time. Bergdahl broke down crying, the official relayed.

In exchange for Bergdahl’s release, five detainees at Guantanamo Bay will be released to Qatar. The US has “appropriate assurances” that Qatar will be able to secure the detainees there, a U.S. official said. The detainees are under a travel ban for a year.

The transfer took place quickly without incident, peacefully and without violence. There were approximately 18 Taliban on site.

U.S. officials believe Bergdahl had been held for the bulk of his captivity in Pakistan. They’re not sure when he was moved to Afghanistan.

The transfer was not negotiated with the Haqqani network, a network of former Pakistani defense officials and other designated terrorists. Instead it was brokered through the Qatari government.

Bergdahl’s parents happened to be in Washington when the news broke. They had come from their home in Idaho for Memorial Day.

Bergdahl is currently being held at a forward operating base in Afghanistan. He will be there until doctors are ready to let him go, and his next move will be to Bagram only when he’s ready.

The U.S. official praised this operation as a show of interagency cooperation—it was a whole-government effort that he said had been in the works for five years. “We really got traction in the last week but we never lost sight of Bergdahl,” he said.
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Old 06-06-2014, 11:14 PM   #451
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It's obvious laws are at best subjective and elective to this president so of course 'law' wasn't a real factor in the release.

At best if president douchebag wanted to follow law a better option would have been to put all gitmo detainees into one rubber raft 1000 miles into the Atlantic, giving each a Happy Meal for nourishment and a plastic spoon to row home.
plastic spoons?

hell no, sporks...
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Old 06-06-2014, 11:17 PM   #452
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plastic spoons?

hell no, sporks...
Ok, I agree to your suggestion which proves bipartisan ship isn't dead.
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Old 06-06-2014, 11:31 PM   #453
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Ok, I agree to your suggestion which proves bipartisan ship isn't dead.
oh bullshit!
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Old 06-06-2014, 11:38 PM   #454
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oh bullshit!
back at you.

Afterthought tho on the spork....could they possibly spear a fish with a spork? If we're on the same page we might want to rethink that.

Just to prove I'm human I'd go back to a spoon and one hand grenade for each person.
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:02 AM   #455
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Doesn't care Obama released the new Osama Bin Laden.

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Old 06-07-2014, 12:28 AM   #456
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back at you.

Afterthought tho on the spork....could they possibly spear a fish with a spork? If we're on the same page we might want to rethink that.

Just to prove I'm human I'd go back to a spoon and one hand grenade for each person.
no, no hand grenades, they could use them to kill lots of fish...

maybe a spoon with lots little holes in it?
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:45 AM   #457
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no, no hand grenades, they could use them to kill lots of fish...

maybe a spoon with lots little holes in it?
How about a herring?
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Old 06-07-2014, 05:15 AM   #458
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These are Taliban, not Al Queda. Unless they figure out something to actually charge them with, which they haven't so far, they have to release them.
Don't get mad, I'm just the messenger.
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Old 06-07-2014, 06:18 AM   #459
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These are Taliban, not Al Queda. Unless they figure out something to actually charge them with, which they haven't so far, they have to release them.
Don't get mad, I'm just the messenger.
Hey here is a newsflash for you. the Taliban were harboring Al Qaeda and were working together with Al Qaeda on planning terrorist attacks on the United States and its citizens. as Hillary and Harry Reid would say ''What Difference does it make"?

Jesus you sound like an administration official. is that you Ms. Rice?
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Clearly its not just this clown ass decision , it everything to date yet he can do no wrong, keep dumping and promoting all of the south Americas on everyone's doorstep in every state, because you know we will get their there vote even it they don't have ID.

Its buying votes same as a third world country does to retain power each year.
AND you wonder why you cant make 15 dollars an hr when its easy pay someone who is happy with $7 dollars an hr.
The mighty power in the justice dept will make sure that happens, and no accountability is going to happen anywhere any time soon drag it out and blame it on radical tea party or far right, making and whipping up stories to drag it out over and over again

All this ass clown has done is divide this country and shoved his stupid view on how America should change all the while spewing ****ing lies to his faithfull., but its turning somewhat against him now we all are able to read BO's poker face now.

This guy is a disgrace to our service men and America,,,,, in his fathers eyes...is what your getting

**** yea we are all in trouble and it just going to get worse before he is out the door don't be surprised of some kind of ploy to delay elections based on unseen international events, Russia and China are going to do everything they can because our RED lines don't mean shit to no one anymore. Or stirring the racial hate over and over again to burn the cities and hate the more fortunate who worked to get to the top

How anyone can defend everything this ass clown has done to date is ****ing blind/or deaf/ or in a love coma
Divide the people, use NSA/IRS/Media/to locate and deter anyone that may be a threat to keep power its working and you still stand up for this shit? FTS

I am married to a minority so don't throw the R card my way call me crazy and delusional or what ever, but I would never salute this CIC,
You all just keep to the best administration this great country has ever seen and enjoy the change and all the hope he has giving everyone.......SFS
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Like that these guys were going to be released in a few months anyway?
That's not really a fact. We call that speculation.
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Hey here is a newsflash for you. the Taliban were harboring Al Qaeda and were working together with Al Qaeda on planning terrorist attacks on the United States and its citizens. as Hillary and Harry Reid would say ''What Difference does it make"?

Jesus you sound like an administration official. is that you Ms. Rice?
I don't know, but he sure gives Susan Rice a run for her money when it comes to shilling. When it comes to foreign policy, cosmo really embraces the role of far left useful idiot.
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Old 06-07-2014, 07:26 AM   #463
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I don't know, but he sure gives Susan Rice a run for her money when it comes to shilling. When it comes to foreign policy, cosmo really embraces the role of far left useful idiot.
It is so obvious that this trade was made as a thoughtless political decision by the administration ( prestigious rose garden ceremony )with total disregard of the security of the country and it's citizens. And anybody that can't see this is a ****ing moron. He'll even ****ing Chris Mathews didn't like this deal.
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These are Taliban, not Al Queda. Unless they figure out something to actually charge them with, which they haven't so far, they have to release them.
Don't get mad, I'm just the messenger.
Can the left even understand radical Islam?

It comes in forms of various terrorist offshoots, and splinter groups, but the desire to fight and kill is all the same.

Trying to separate radical Islamic terrorist groups is just splitting hairs and only something someone without an understanding of these groups ultimate goal would try to do.
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