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**2014 Official NBA Playoffs Thread**

Round 1:

EAST:

#8 Hawks @ #1 Pacers
#7 Bobcats @ #2 Heat
#6 Nets @ #3 Raptors
#5 Wizards @ #4 Bulls

WEST:
#8 Mavericks @ #1 Spurs
#7 Grizzlies @ #2 Thunder
#6 Warriors @ #3 Clippers
#5 Blazers @ #4 Rockets

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Old 06-17-2014, 09:01 PM   #5146
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Melo playing quality ball lol
he is. if he went and played with a center like Noah on the Bulls they would instantly be the #1 contender in the East.
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Old 06-17-2014, 09:22 PM   #5147
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Holy ****, I knew you were stupid but wow.

You've got the Spurs, Durant, LeBron, Melo, and several other players all playing top quality ball.

Back in my day, teh basketball was teh best/old ass dumbass.
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Duncan, Dirk, Kobe, Garnett, Durant, Westbrook, Dwight, Rose, Curry, Paul, Griffin, Pierce, Rondo, etc., etc. Several in this list are or will be in the top 30 players all time when their careers end. Duncan, Dirk, Kobe are all top 10 - 20 players all time already.

And if anyone thinks that defenses from any era could deal with a 6'9, 270 athletic freak with handles, a decent shot, great vision and overall basketball insight then they're out of touch. And that's on the offensive end. If a defensive player was allowed to be more physical.....can you imagine trying to score with LeBron defending you?
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Old 06-17-2014, 09:40 PM   #5148
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he is. if he went and played with a center like Noah on the Bulls they would instantly be the #1 contender in the East.
They wouldnt even win a playoff series
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Old 06-17-2014, 09:50 PM   #5149
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Not that you ever made any, but I'm thinking that might have something to do with the fact that you only started posting in this 2 month old thread two days ago to troll LeBron. Your intention here was never to talk basketball beyond bashing him repeatedly and senselessly. And by your own admission, you didn't even watch the games before doing so. You are exactly what you appear to be.
Wow, the sphincter has not stopped burning, has it? Just because a relief pitcher doesn't come into the game until the 8th ot 9th inning doesn't mean they dont know baseball. As for hating on LaNBA, well that's on LaNBA, he brought it on himself. Just because YOU dont agree doesnt make it any less true.
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Old 06-17-2014, 09:52 PM   #5150
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Wow, the sphincter has not stopped burning, has it? Just because a relief pitcher doesn't come into the game until the 8th ot 9th inning doesn't mean they dont know baseball. As for hating on LaNBA, well that's on LaNBA, he brought it on himself. Just because YOU dont agree doesnt make it any less true.
No, but it means that they (just like you) have a very different purpose in this thread than the people that have been here since the very beginning actually talking basketball instead of just trolling LeBron.
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Old 06-17-2014, 09:55 PM   #5151
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No, but it means that they (just like you) have a very different purpose in this thread than the people that have been here since the very beginning actually talking basketball instead of just trolling LeBron.
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Old 06-17-2014, 10:01 PM   #5152
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To add ---

Duncan, Dirk, Kobe, Garnett, Durant, Westbrook, Dwight, Rose, Curry, Paul, Griffin, Pierce, Rondo, etc., etc. Several in this list are or will be in the top 30 players all time when their careers end. Duncan, Dirk, Kobe are all top 10 - 20 players all time already.

And if anyone thinks that defenses from any era could deal with a 6'9, 270 athletic freak with handles, a decent shot, great vision and overall basketball insight then they're out of touch. And that's on the offensive end. If a defensive player was allowed to be more physical.....can you imagine trying to score with LeBron defending you?
There were some phenomenal defenders in that era. Malone, Pippen, Rodman... lots of guys who could have made a great matchup against LeBron.

Yes, the handcheck rules are important. LeBron is a sure-handed ballhandler so it wouldn't lead to as many turnovers, but I can tell you a few things. If LeBron charged the lane, there would be bodies and enforcers sending him a message in ways you can't today. Handchecking would make it really hard to finish at the basket, which means LeBron would have to rely a lot moreso on his jumpshot. And LeBron would be facing teams like the Spurs that hustle and pass the ball almost every night.

It's why I can't stand it when people assume that LeBron would dominate a different era. Nobody knows. He's a hell of a player and would do well in any era. But ridiculous to suggest that he's had a much easier time.
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Old 06-18-2014, 03:16 PM   #5153
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Since KCC loves stats so much. Pts. in the finals:

MJ: 35 games
30+ 23 35+ 13 40+ 6
20 and under 0 Times

Kobe: 37 Games
30+ 13 35+ 2 40+ 1
20 and under 8 Times

Lebron: 27 Games
30+ 7 35+ 2 40+ 0
20 and under 8 Times
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Old 06-18-2014, 03:42 PM   #5154
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Since KCC loves stats so much. Pts. in the finals:

MJ: 35 games
30+ 23 35+ 13 40+ 6
20 and under 0 Times

Kobe: 37 Games
30+ 13 35+ 2 40+ 1
20 and under 8 Times

Lebron: 27 Games
30+ 7 35+ 2 40+ 0
20 and under 8 Times
It's almost like LeBron doesn't shoot the ball as much as MJ or Kobe did and plays a completely different style of basketball than them.

But yes, impressive. Posting point totals without any context, without any indication of efficiency, and without any of their other numbers accumulated during those games. We're really looking at the height of basketball analytics here.
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Old 06-18-2014, 03:56 PM   #5155
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It's almost like LeBron doesn't shoot the ball as much as MJ or Kobe did and plays a completely different style of basketball than them.

But yes, impressive. Posting point totals without any context, without any indication of efficiency, and without any of their other numbers accumulated during those games. We're really looking at the height of basketball analytics here.
Seeing as MJ and Kobe are better shooters and relied less on getting to the basket/the free throw line than Lebron that just makes it more impressive to me.

And if that's the way you wanna go it just further adds to my argument that Lebron has been passive in most of his finals games and doesn't get aggressive when he needs to. If his team is so bad, why is he continuing to rely on his teammates? Why can't he take over the game for 4 quarters like those guys did?
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Old 06-18-2014, 04:48 PM   #5156
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Seeing as MJ and Kobe are better shooters and relied less on getting to the basket/the free throw line than Lebron that just makes it more impressive to me.

And if that's the way you wanna go it just further adds to my argument that Lebron has been passive in most of his finals games and doesn't get aggressive when he needs to. If his team is so bad, why is he continuing to rely on his teammates? Why can't he take over the game for 4 quarters like those guys did?
You really bumped this thread again to troll and make ridiculous baseless statements (such as LeBron being a worse shooter than MJ and Kobe despite having the best career FG% and 3PT% among them, or MJ/Kobe relying less on FTs even though the three of them all averaged between 7.6 to 8.6 FTAs a game). And you did it all so we can rehash exactly the same things you were bullshitting about with absolutely no knowledge a few days ago?

Just so, so dumb. It might just be time to let the LeBron hate go.
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Old 06-18-2014, 04:54 PM   #5157
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Interesting debate. However, I'm not sure Kobe belongs in the same sentence with Jordan or LBJ.
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Old 06-18-2014, 04:55 PM   #5158
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You really bumped this thread again to troll and make ridiculous baseless statements (such as LeBron being a worse shooter than MJ and Kobe despite having the best career FG% and 3PT% among them, or MJ/Kobe relying less on FTs even though the three of them all averaged between 7.6 to 8.6 FTAs a game). And you did it all so we can rehash exactly the same things you were bullshitting about with absolutely no knowledge a few days ago?

Just so, so dumb. It might just be time to let the LeBron hate go.
You really think Lebron is a better shooter than MJ and Kobe? I'll admit he's gotten better but there was a reason Pop had his guys daring Lebron to shoot in last years finals. Once again I don't care about the stats, that's you. His FG% (which isn't better more like the same) is what is is because of layups and him not being as aggressive as the other two, something you continue to duck.

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Interesting debate. However, I'm not sure Kobe belongs in the same sentence with Jordan or LBJ.
Bullshit Kobe won two championships with Gasol as the second best player. He's more worthy than Lebron.
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Interesting debate. However, I'm not sure Kobe belongs in the same sentence with Jordan or LBJ.
He doesn't, but that's to be expected considering the poster we're dealing with. Kobe isn't anywhere close to the caliber of either one as a basketball player.
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