Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Lounge > D.C.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-25-2014, 05:02 PM  
Taco John Taco John is offline
12on Paul
 
Taco John's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Casino cash: $10081
House Republicans to Sue Obama

House Republicans to Sue Obama

Alex Rogers

Objections to the Administration's executive actions

The House of Representatives will sue President Barack Obama for not “faithfully executing” the law, Speaker John Boehner said Wednesday, though he declined to say which of Obama’s actions the House will challenge in court.

MORE
Charlie Rangel’s Famous Friends Are Happy He’s Still in Congress
Senators Call on Men to Speak Up to End Violence Against Women
Viva! Pope Francis Flaunts Argentina Soccer Jersey NBC News
Jessica N. Turner: Moms, Put on That Swimsuit Huffington Post
Party's Over? GOP's Insurgents Take More Punches NBC News
“What we’ve seen certainly over the last five years is an effort to erode the power of the legislative branch,” Boehner said. “I believe the President is not faithfully executing the laws of the country and on behalf of the institution and our constitution, standing up and fighting for this is in the best long-term interest of the Congress.”

While Boehner has yet to announce the details of the forthcoming lawsuit, House Republicans have strongly opposed numerous unilateral decisions made by the Obama Administration, including halting deportations of immigrants who were brought to the country as children, postponing provisions of the Affordable Care Act and raising the minimum wage for federal contractors. In a letter to House members Wednesday, Boehner said he intends to bring legislation to the floor in July to “compel” Obama to follow his oath of office

White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest didn’t say whether Obama and Boehner had discussed the lawsuit when the Speaker was at the White House Tuesday, and he criticized House Republicans for taking their opposition of the President into “a gear that I didn’t know previously existed.”

“The fact that they are considering a taxpayer funded lawsuit against the President of the United States for doing his job, I think, is the kind of step that most Americans wouldn’t support,” Earnest said. “This lawsuit is certainly not something that is going to consume the attention of the White House.”

Boehner could summon the Bipartisan Legal Advisory Group to decide on whether or not to sue the President on behalf of the House, according to Roll Call, which first reported on the lawsuit. The panel consists of the top three House Republican leaders, including the Speaker, and the top two Democratic leaders. The group acts on a majority vote. Boehner last convened the panel in 2011 when the White House said it would no longer defend the Defense of Marriage Act in court. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said Wednesday that the Republicans wasted $2.3 million in taxpayer money defending the law.

“I make of it as subterfuge,” Pelosi said of the new House Republican plan to sue Obama. “As I’ve said they are doing nothing here and so they have to give some aura of activity.

“He hasn’t come anywhere near what Republican presidents have done on executive orders,” Pelosi added.

“Not only does the President regularly ignore the law, he brags about it,” Boehner said. “And he brags about his willingness to change it unilaterally. First the Administration makes the wrong decisions. Then it won’t give the American people the straight answers. Instead it’s arrogance and incompetence right down the line. I think Americans deserve better. And the House will continue to listen to the American people and make their priorities our priorities.”

http://time.com/2921512/barack-obama...icans-lawsuit/
Posts: 51,260
Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Taco John is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2014, 10:18 PM   #31
go bowe go bowe is offline
bye bye bo...
 
go bowe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: independence
Casino cash: $9712
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raiderhader View Post
I am not questioning you as in I don't believe you, I am questioning out of genuine curiosity: when has it been tried before?
look, i grew up with pencils and erasers and ball point pens...

my google skills reek...

there are a number of cases decided by the supremes that dismissed claims on the basis of lack of standing...

try something like supreme court standing, and then i'm stuck, don't know what the other search terms would be: political, congress, i don't know...

cases where the legislature (and iirc congress) suing the executive and getting bounced out of court for lack of standing...

most legal commentators i've read seem to think congress will never get by the standing hurdle and some go so far as to suggest that congress is well aware of those cases so it does (despite it being a dem talking point) appear to be a political stunt...

fwiw, that's my opinion too...

chris matthews suggests that the speaker is pursuing the idea of a suit as an alternative short of calling for impeachment (which didn't help the repub cause much last time around)...

seems plausible to me...

unlike obama, the speaker is a seasoned politician...
Posts: 30,429
go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2014, 10:56 PM   #32
tboss27 tboss27 is offline
Starter
 

Join Date: Feb 2009
Casino cash: $8015
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loneiguana View Post
Boehner, in a letter to Obama, even admitted that the employer mandate "cannot be implemented within the current time frame." The party has referred to the provision as a "jobs killer" and has sought its repeal.

Stop doing things we approve off or we will sue you...

/The house GOP and their idiot supporters.
I hate boehner almost as much as Obama. The R's shouldn't have batted an eyelash at the ACA, just let it go through and watch the catastrophe for a while. It would have been a lot better and quicker, if all the stuff Obama changed about ACA had been implemented there would be riots in front of the White House by now.
Posts: 605
tboss27 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.tboss27 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.tboss27 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.tboss27 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.tboss27 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.tboss27 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.tboss27 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.tboss27 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.tboss27 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.tboss27 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.tboss27 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2014, 11:01 PM   #33
cosmo20002 cosmo20002 is offline
Debunking your bullshit
 
cosmo20002's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: KC area
Casino cash: $22089
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loneiguana View Post
Boehner, in a letter to Obama, even admitted that the employer mandate "cannot be implemented within the current time frame." The party has referred to the provision as a "jobs killer" and has sought its repeal.

Stop doing things we approve off or we will sue you...

/The house GOP and their idiot supporters.
And this is exactly why there is some executive discretion on some dates and deadlines and why the Supreme Court has recognized this discretion. Circumstances may be that a deadline can't be met...so what should happen, Rs?

Seems like this letter would go a long way to sinking Boner's lawsuit.
Posts: 20,474
cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2014, 11:03 PM   #34
cosmo20002 cosmo20002 is offline
Debunking your bullshit
 
cosmo20002's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: KC area
Casino cash: $22089
We are going to sue you for delaying this thing that we hate and never want to be enacted!!!

/The house GOP and their idiot supporters
Posts: 20,474
cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2014, 07:12 AM   #35
Loneiguana Loneiguana is offline
Veteran
 
Loneiguana's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Springfield
Casino cash: $9250
Quote:
Originally Posted by cosmo20002 View Post
And this is exactly why there is some executive discretion on some dates and deadlines and why the Supreme Court has recognized this discretion. Circumstances may be that a deadline can't be met...so what should happen, Rs?

Seems like this letter would go a long way to sinking Boner's lawsuit.
Just to throw some facts into this circus of the House GOP and their idiot supporters:

Quote:
The administration claimed that it was relying on the Treasury Department's "transition relief" authority, which allows the government to grant relief by section 7805(ca) of the Internal Revenue Code. "The authority has been used to postpone the application of new legislation on a number of prior occasions across Administrations," Mark J. Mazur, the Assistant Secretary for Tax Policy, wrote in a letter to Rep. Fred Upton (R-MI) and pointed to occasions when the Bush administration cited the authority to delay implementation of laws.
"78059(a)":

Quote:
Except where such authority is expressly given by this title to any person other than an officer or employee of the Treasury Department, the Secretary shall prescribe all needful rules and regulations for the enforcement of this title, including all rules and regulations as may be necessary by reason of any alteration of law in relation to internal revenue.
__________________
"Most of us can, as we choose, make of this world either a palace or a prison."
–John Lubbock
Posts: 4,199
Loneiguana would the whole thing.Loneiguana would the whole thing.Loneiguana would the whole thing.Loneiguana would the whole thing.Loneiguana would the whole thing.Loneiguana would the whole thing.Loneiguana would the whole thing.Loneiguana would the whole thing.Loneiguana would the whole thing.Loneiguana would the whole thing.Loneiguana would the whole thing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2014, 07:15 AM   #36
stonedstooge stonedstooge is offline
Arf! Arf! Arf!
 
stonedstooge's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: North
Casino cash: $19882
Quote:
Originally Posted by cosmo20002 View Post
We are going to sue you for delaying this thing that we hate and never want to be enacted!!!

/The house GOP and their idiot supporters
BECAUSE IT'S THE LAW/LIBTARDS
__________________
2013 ADOPT A CHIEF
Eric Kush




"Often is a word I seldom use"--JP
Posts: 22,606
stonedstooge is obviously part of the inner Circle.stonedstooge is obviously part of the inner Circle.stonedstooge is obviously part of the inner Circle.stonedstooge is obviously part of the inner Circle.stonedstooge is obviously part of the inner Circle.stonedstooge is obviously part of the inner Circle.stonedstooge is obviously part of the inner Circle.stonedstooge is obviously part of the inner Circle.stonedstooge is obviously part of the inner Circle.stonedstooge is obviously part of the inner Circle.stonedstooge is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2014, 09:28 AM   #37
Xanathol Xanathol is offline
Starter
 

Join Date: Mar 2011
Casino cash: $6705
Boehner is a pussy and about as stupid as a liberal / liberal wannabe. You don't 'sue' the President - you impeach him.
Posts: 552
Xanathol must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Xanathol must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Xanathol must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Xanathol must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Xanathol must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Xanathol must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Xanathol must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Xanathol must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Xanathol must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Xanathol must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Xanathol must have mowed badgirl's lawn.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2014, 11:46 AM   #38
ClevelandBronco ClevelandBronco is offline
Banned
 
ClevelandBronco's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2006
Casino cash: $9805
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xanathol View Post
Boehner is a pussy and about as stupid as a liberal / liberal wannabe. You don't 'sue' the President - you impeach him.
They may be suing him to see if they can take it far enough to get him to lie under oath about something other than getting a blowjob. Or—in his case—giving many.
Posts: 20,597
ClevelandBronco has disabled reputation
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2014, 04:04 PM   #39
Dave Lane Dave Lane is offline
Space Cadet and Aczabel
 
Dave Lane's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Kansas City, Mo, USA
Casino cash: $16112
VARSITY
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris616 View Post
High Tech is Sorcery and the people who are really powerful are literally telling people to commit crimes using the psychic interspace created by the WWW and Wireless. They are controlling peoples actions like drones . The two things are deeply intertwined. The more man's brain interfaces with machines the creepier it gets. They use brains separate from a human body in a supercomputer and you have The Image of the Beast. The military has been doing this since the 50s
Posts: 25,355
Dave Lane is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dave Lane is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dave Lane is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dave Lane is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dave Lane is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dave Lane is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dave Lane is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dave Lane is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dave Lane is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dave Lane is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dave Lane is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2014, 04:11 PM   #40
chiefzilla1501 chiefzilla1501 is offline
Gonzo = Sexy Bitch
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $15936
I seriously hate this idea.

Obama is doing a good enough destroying his own reputation. This kind of shit only fuels conversation that Republicans are stubbornly resistant to Obama. I don't understand what good can come from this. Obama is actually getting brownie points for having to deal with a dumbass like Boehner.
Posts: 21,486
chiefzilla1501 threw an interception on a screen pass.chiefzilla1501 threw an interception on a screen pass.chiefzilla1501 threw an interception on a screen pass.chiefzilla1501 threw an interception on a screen pass.chiefzilla1501 threw an interception on a screen pass.chiefzilla1501 threw an interception on a screen pass.chiefzilla1501 threw an interception on a screen pass.chiefzilla1501 threw an interception on a screen pass.chiefzilla1501 threw an interception on a screen pass.chiefzilla1501 threw an interception on a screen pass.chiefzilla1501 threw an interception on a screen pass.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2014, 04:37 PM   #41
Otter Otter is offline
holding a blood clot at birth
 
Otter's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Durango, CO
Casino cash: $9614
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Lane View Post
You've got to be kidding me at this point. That assclown wants to disolve the borders and is using police forces against it's own citizens to make it happen.

**** that dirtball.
__________________
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not” - Thomas Jefferson, 1801.
Posts: 13,356
Otter has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Otter has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Otter has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Otter has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Otter has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Otter has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Otter has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Otter has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Otter has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Otter has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Otter has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2014, 04:53 PM   #42
suzzer99 suzzer99 is offline
MVP
 
suzzer99's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: LA
Casino cash: $11682
Some of you live in a very weird scary make-believe world.
Posts: 5,726
suzzer99 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.suzzer99 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.suzzer99 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.suzzer99 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.suzzer99 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.suzzer99 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.suzzer99 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.suzzer99 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.suzzer99 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.suzzer99 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.suzzer99 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2014, 06:07 PM   #43
Hoopsdoc Hoopsdoc is offline
Servant of God
 
Hoopsdoc's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Epsom Indiana
Casino cash: $8492
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 View Post
I seriously hate this idea.

Obama is doing a good enough destroying his own reputation. This kind of shit only fuels conversation that Republicans are stubbornly resistant to Obama. I don't understand what good can come from this. Obama is actually getting brownie points for having to deal with a dumbass like Boehner.
Totally agree. This does nothing but give Obama ammo with which to rile up his base.
__________________
Quote:
As for me and my house, we will serve The Lord
Posts: 471
Hoopsdoc has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Hoopsdoc has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Hoopsdoc has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Hoopsdoc has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Hoopsdoc has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Hoopsdoc has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Hoopsdoc has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Hoopsdoc has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Hoopsdoc has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Hoopsdoc has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Hoopsdoc has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2014, 06:29 PM   #44
go bowe go bowe is offline
bye bye bo...
 
go bowe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: independence
Casino cash: $9712
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raiderhader View Post
I am not questioning you as in I don't believe you, I am questioning out of genuine curiosity: when has it been tried before?
individual congressmen do not have standing to sue, raines v. byrd, 521 U.S. 811 (1997)...

in addition the general doctrine of standing has been the subject of about 10 supreme court decisions and as i've said before most of the commentators seem to think any suit would most likely be dismissed on the basis of lack of standing...

but, this is the roberts court and corporations have feelings and other novel ideas have been the rule. so they might decide that congress does have standing, you never know...
Posts: 30,429
go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2014, 06:46 PM   #45
go bowe go bowe is offline
bye bye bo...
 
go bowe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: independence
Casino cash: $9712
on pp. 819-820 od raines:

We have always insisted on strict compliance with this jurisdictional standing requirement. See, e. g., ibid. (under Article III, "federal courts may exercise power only 'in the last resort, and as a necessity''') (quoting Chicago & Grand Trunk R. Co. v. Wellman, 143 U. S. 339, 345 (1892)); Muskrat v. United States, 219 U. S. 346, 356 (1911) ("[F]rom its earliest history this [C]ourt has consistently declined to exercise any powers other than those which are strictly judicial in their nature"). And our standing inquiry has been especially rigorous when reaching the merits of the dispute would force us to decide whether an action taken by one
820
of the other two branches of the Federal Government was unconstitutional. See, e. g., Bender, supra, at 542; Valley Forge, supra, at 473-474. As we said in Allen, supra, at 752, "the law of Art. III standing is built on a single basic idea-the idea of separation of powers." In the light of this overriding and time-honored concern about keeping the Judiciary's power within its proper constitutional sphere,3 we must put aside the natural urge to proceed directly to the merits of this important dispute and to "settle" it for the sake of convenience and efficiency. Instead, we must carefully inquire as to whether appellees have met their burden of establishing that their claimed injury is personal, particularized, concrete, and otherwise judicially cognizable.
Posts: 30,429
go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.go bowe has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:55 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
A new website that shows member-created construction site listings that need fill or have excess fill. Dirt Monkey @ https://DirtMonkey.net
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.