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Old 07-09-2014, 12:00 AM  
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Poll: Hillary Clinton ahead, Rand Paul leads GOP

Poll: Hillary Clinton ahead, Rand Paul leads GOP

Sen. Rand Paul narrowly leads a tight 2016 Republican presidential field, while Hillary Clinton remains comfortably ahead among Democrats, a new poll says.

According to a Quinnipiac University poll released Tuesday, the Kentucky senator leads the way among national Republican voters with 11 percent of the vote in a potential 2016 GOP primary. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush all tied for second with 10 percent of the vote.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and 2012 vice presidential nominee Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan all pulled in 8 percent of the vote. Florida Sen. Marco Rubio received 6 percent.

Twenty percent of Republican voters remain undecided, underscoring a 2016 GOP presidential field with a lot of potential candidates but no clear favorite.

Democrats, on the other hand, still have a clear front-runner in former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who received 58 percent of the vote in a potential Democratic primary. Sen. Elizabeth Warren came in a distant second with 11 percent of the vote, Vice President Joe Biden received 9 percent and New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo got 4 percent. Warren has said repeatedly that she isn’t running for president, though she has received considerable support from some in the liberal wing of the party.

Clinton also performed well in head-to-head matchups with many Republican candidates. In one-on-one matchups, voters preferred her to Christie, Paul, Huckabee, Bush and Ryan by anywhere from 7 to 9 percentage points. Clinton maintains a clear advantage among women, who gave her at least a 16-point edge in each of those matchups.

The poll also reported a divided electorate ahead of the 2014 congressional midterm elections. Forty-six percent of voters would like to see Republicans take control of the Senate, compared with 44 percent who would like Democrats to retain control. Voters reported a negative view of both parties, though they reported stronger negative feelings toward the Republican Party and congressional Republicans.

The survey was conducted June 24-30 with 1,446 registered voters on landlines and cellphones. The margin of error for questions for all voters was plus or minus 2.6 percentage points, while the margin of error for Republican voters was plus or minus 3.9 points, and for Democratic voters plus or minus 4 points.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/0...#ixzz36wrAQj3Y

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Old 07-11-2014, 12:43 PM   #76
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I have to say, I thought the special program on the border last night on Hannity had Perry looking very presidential and competent. He had great ideas on the border on how to make the whole thing more secure based on techniques being used in Texas. He looked very competent. I was impressed.

Afterwards, I read that 5 major companies were moving from Mexifornia to Texas because of the better business environment. Another plus for Perry. He may not be a good debator or talker but he's a competent leader as he sounds much better one-on-one. Being a governor is a good qualification too.

If this border situation continues to loom large, I wouldn't be surprised if he rises over the others. Plus he's not a Northeaster—like Romney.

Never thought I'd say that but there ya' go.
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Old 07-11-2014, 02:41 PM   #77
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Rand is starting to pull away...

Rand Paul pulling away, reaches 20% for first time in 2016 GOP poll

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, the most active candidate on the 2016 Republican presidential trail, is starting to pull away from the field of competitors, reaching 20 percent support for the first time this year, according to a new Zogby Analytics poll.

The June 27-29 poll found Paul building a big lead over establishment candidates like New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, both at 13 percent, and three other key potential challengers: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, at 8 percent; Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, at 7 percent; and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, at 4 percent.

Paul has been working key national issues, such as support for Israel, while also attempting to build a broad support base that includes libertarians, African Americans, conservatives and students.

Importantly, said the poll operation, “This is the first time a GOP candidate has reached 20 percent in a crowded field and the first time a Zogby poll has shown someone emerging a bit from the pack.” Only one other poll, a Rasmussen survey in November 2013, had Paul reaching 20 percent.

His support is strongest among men, middle-age voters, independents, conservatives, moderates, Protestants and evangelicals.

The poll of 282 likely and eligible voters in GOP presidential primaries of had a wide 6 percent margin of error.

Paul also led in the most recent Quinnipiac University poll, at 11 percent.

Among 612 likely Democratic primary voters polled, Hillary Clinton continued to show her strength at 52 percent. The others: Vice President Joe Biden, 8 percent; Sen. Elizabeth Warren, 7 percent; Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley and former Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer, 4 percent; former Virginia Sen. Jim Webb, 3 percent.

Paul Bedard, the Washington Examiner's "Washington Secrets" columnist, can be contacted at pbedard@washingtonexaminer.com.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/rand-p...rticle/2550689
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Old 07-11-2014, 02:44 PM   #78
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And then there is this - Rand is beating Rubio AND Jeb in Florida vs. Hillary...
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Old 07-11-2014, 02:46 PM   #79
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Rand is starting to pull away...


I find it hilarious that anyone could type these words on July 11, 2014.
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Old 07-11-2014, 02:51 PM   #80
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I find it hilarious that anyone could type these words on July 11, 2014.
Not sure why. There's a big question as to which Republican has the most energy right now. I think the clear answer has actually been Romney, and with Romney looking doubtful, Rand has made the most significant move in the polls in some time. He's ran neck and neck with everyone else until this point.

Pulling away is different than winning. It's just pulling away.
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Old 07-11-2014, 02:54 PM   #81
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I find it hilarious that anyone could type these words on July 11, 2014.
Not surprising. Here he is in Dec 2007 saying he thinks Ron Paul will win the nomination and get 70% turnout. And then he gets mad at me for saying he pulls stuff out of his ass.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...highlight=Paul


Rand Paul has a fighter's chance to be the nominee but it is a freaking lifetime away yet. jfc
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Old 07-11-2014, 02:58 PM   #82
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Not surprising. Here he is in Dec 2007 saying he thinks Ron Paul will win the nomination and get 70% turnout. And then he gets mad at me for saying he pulls stuff out of his ass.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...highlight=Paul
Meh, I was merely early on the Tea Party, that's all. Being two years early on when the movement would get speed is not that big a deal.

Also, I don't know where you're getting that 70% turnout number from. I've never guessed at turnout percentage that I know of.
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Old 07-11-2014, 02:59 PM   #83
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Not sure why. There's a big question as to which Republican has the most energy right now. I think the clear answer has actually been Romney, and with Romney looking doubtful, Rand has made the most significant move in the polls in some time. He's ran neck and neck with everyone else until this point.

Pulling away is different than winning. It's just pulling away.
Because it's like declaring that the lead runner is "pulling away" after the first 100 feet of a marathon.
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Old 07-11-2014, 02:59 PM   #84
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Not surprising. Here he is in Dec 2007 saying he thinks Ron Paul will win the nomination and get 70% turnout. And then he gets mad at me for saying he pulls stuff out of his ass.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...highlight=Paul


Rand Paul has a fighter's chance to be the nominee but it is a freaking lifetime away yet. jfc


Teej's awesome political prognostication skills on full display there.
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Not surprising. Here he is in Dec 2007 saying he thinks Ron Paul will win the nomination and get 70% turnout. And then he gets mad at me for saying he pulls stuff out of his ass.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...highlight=Paul


Rand Paul has a fighter's chance to be the nominee but it is a freaking lifetime away yet. jfc

"LOL - you recognize that polls build a narrative! Hahaha!"

Whatever idiots...
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Because it's like declaring that the lead runner is "pulling away" after the first 100 feet of a marathon.

If someone gets a touch down in the first quarter, it means something. I get that you guys want to ridicule me, and that's your whole intention here. Doesn't matter to me. There's a narrative here, and the fact that Rand has made a jump here isn't entirely meaningless - especially since it's happening right before his Guatamala trip, where it sounds like Greta and Fox news are going to tag along...
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If someone gets a touch down in the first quarter, it means something. I get that you guys want to ridicule me, and that's your whole intention here. Doesn't matter to me. There's a narrative here, and the fact that Rand has made a jump here isn't entirely meaningless - especially since it's happening right before his Guatamala trip, where it sounds like Greta and Fox news are going to tag along...
While I can't deny that, I'd say that this is more like a 1st down in the 1st minute of the 1st quarter.
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Also, few people understand this right now, but the RNC has built the nomination process so that the person who gets hottest fastest has the best chance to win - and they've made it nearly impossible for a traditional religious conservative (think Huckabee or Santorum) to win with how much distance they've put between Iowa and South Carolina.

Paul isn't going to try to run as a tea party candidate though. He's aiming for establishment Republican turf. He's not trying to be the usurper. He's trying to be the logical pick. Whether you are smart enough to recognize it or not, it's a huge deal that he's showing some distance on the field right now. It basically means that the current establishment has to try to push all in by convincing Romney to come back.

None of this is prediction. This is what is basically unfolding in front of us if you have the eyes to rocognize it.
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"LOL - you recognize that polls build a narrative! Hahaha!"

Whatever idiots...
Everyone knows you thought Ron would win the nomination both times but he didn't get anywhere close. My friendly advice to you is don't make any predictions regarding Rand it might work out better that way.
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Meh, I was merely early on the Tea Party, that's all. Being two years early on when the movement would get speed is not that big a deal.

Also, I don't know where you're getting that 70% turnout number from. I've never guessed at turnout percentage that I know of.
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