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Old 07-10-2014, 07:18 PM  
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Science 2.0: Atheists Might Not Exist

Dave Lane's head just exploded:

Cognitive scientists are becoming increasingly aware that a metaphysical outlook may be so deeply ingrained in human thought processes that it cannot be expunged.

While this idea may seem outlandish—after all, it seems easy to decide not to believe in God—evidence from several disciplines indicates that what you actually believe is not a decision you make for yourself. Your fundamental beliefs are decided by much deeper levels of consciousness, and some may well be more or less set in stone.

This line of thought has led to some scientists claiming that “atheism is psychologically impossible because of the way humans think,” says Graham Lawton, an avowed atheist himself, writing in the New Scientist. “They point to studies showing, for example, that even people who claim to be committed atheists tacitly hold religious beliefs, such as the existence of an immortal soul.”

In the United States, 38% of people who identified themselves as atheist or agnostic went on to claim to believe in a God or a Higher Power (Pew Forum, “Religion and the Unaffiliated”, 2012).

In the US, only 20 per cent of people have no religious affiliation, but of these, only one in ten say they are atheists.

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Old 07-11-2014, 09:59 AM   #31
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Thousands of peer-reviewed articles on climate change = junk science

Some offhand reference to "some scientists think..." in a magazine = seems legit
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Old 07-11-2014, 10:54 AM   #32
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Thousands of peer-reviewed articles on climate change = junk science

Some offhand reference to "some scientists think..." in a magazine = seems legit
A bunch of 'peer reviewed' pillowbiters circle jerking say "it's natural!" while everyone who manages not to lust after farm animals says "no it is not". Bullshit is bullshit, no matter how many of your retarded brethren agree with you, especially when money is on the line.

Remember - half of these people graduated in the bottom half of their class... (libtard heads just imploded).
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Old 07-11-2014, 03:58 PM   #33
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Old 07-11-2014, 04:11 PM   #34
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Wasn't it like 2000 hardcore atheists Lane has created in his lifetime? Something like that.



Who says Lane has no sense of humor?
Take into account the situation in meeting Mr. Lane.

A person has heard that man is made in God's image...person meets Dave Lane, thinks to himself "What God would ever make this guy to represent him?" and then it's just logic from there.

If that's the scenario I assume he converts folks daily.
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Old 07-11-2014, 04:47 PM   #35
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Take into account the situation in meeting Mr. Lane.

A person has heard that man is made in God's image...person meets Dave Lane, thinks to himself "What God would ever make this guy to represent him?" and then it's just logic from there.

If that's the scenario I assume he converts folks daily.

The theory I had was the convo went something like this:

"I can't come by to watch the Chiefs game until I get back from church."

-You go to church? Are you completely stupid? Only retarded people believe that fable.

"Well, I'll be by a bit after kickoff so could you DVR it? If not I don't mind missing the beginning.

-It's all a hoax and I'll tell you why: You see -

"Ok ok Lane, I get it. It's a hoax. Cool. Now let's plan for Sunday.

(Hangs up phone annoyed. Lane goes to chalboard, notches another de-conversion)
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Old 07-11-2014, 04:49 PM   #36
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The theory I had was the convo went something like this:

"I can't come by to watch the Chiefs game until I get back from church."

-You go to church? Are you completely stupid? Only retarded people believe that fable.

"Well, I'll be by a bit after kickoff so could you DVR it? If not I don't mind missing the beginning.

-It's all a hoax and I'll tell you why: You see -

"Ok ok Lane, I get it. It's a hoax. Cool. Now let's plan for Sunday.

(Hangs up phone annoyed. Lane goes to chalboard, notches another de-conversion)
Well I don't buy that scenario at all...Dave Lane having a friend...
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Old 07-11-2014, 04:53 PM   #37
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Well I don't buy that scenario at all...Dave Lane having a friend...
You're right, I probably flubbed that one. Ok how about this:

-Excuse me sir, can I tell you about our local organization Annoying Atheist Douchebags?

"Well, not really, you see I'm a bit late for work and I have to catch the bus"

-I see but this is really important. My pamphlet exposes the lies of Christianity

"Ok, sure. It was nice to see-

-And make sure you watch the link printed at the bottom. It's a 27 minute YouTube expose on the great conspiracy read aloud by Bill Maher


-"Got it. Thanks for the pamphlet, have a nice day." (Gets on bus, throws pamphlet into small trashcan next to driver)
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Old 07-11-2014, 05:31 PM   #38
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Ooops...we have to catch ourselves here PB...we're not being very Christian. Dave? We're sorry...God bless you and may you find your way back into his arms.

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Thousands of peer-reviewed articles on climate change = junk science

Some offhand reference to "some scientists think..." in a magazine = seems legit
Why would you discount Pew polling data? Or perhaps you are questioning if they are a legitimate firm?
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Old 07-12-2014, 05:51 AM   #42
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Until I can hand any atheist a bucket of dirt and tell them to make it into a dog, cow, brilliant Chief WR they will be considered flat earth humans to me.
So people who cannot perform and do not believe in magic are 'flat earthers' in your view?

Interesting viewpoint.
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Old 07-12-2014, 06:07 AM   #43
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The 10 commandants are proof of gods non-existence. A two year old could compile a better list in 15 seconds.
I think George Carlin nailed it with his two commandments.

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Finally, to address the OP.

I'm an atheist. I don't believe in an immortal soul or everlasting life as preached by religions.

Of course... in a purely physical sense the energy that makes up my 'existence' never actually dies. It is dispersed. What dies is my sense of self and my container. I would assume this is the end of consciousness, but I'm not dead yet. Humans only understand 5% of their surroundings. I don't know what happens when I die. All I can say for certain is that I'll find out eventually.

I do believe that humans are instinctively religious (though that is not the term I'd use, I do not know of a better term right now) and in many cases this instinct is much stronger than others. This manifests itself in different ways based on culture and surroundings... but there seems to be a basic NEED there for most people to believe in something beyond the end of their life.

Humans have an ability that other animals do not: We can imagine. That is good, but also dark. Imagining life as short, bleak, and meaningless is BAD for a species to survive and life was HARD in ancient times. Looking to something great beyond this life ensured people tried to live. That was important to survival, and thus it thrived among humans. It was a huge help in ancient times increasing our will to live so to speak.

Organized religion took advantage of this tendency in people with good and bad results. It created a structure and in essence the first forms of government. It also created something that bound people culturally. It also helped convince the poor people to give all of their money to the rich temples... Okay... that last one was mostly prominent in the middle east with "the big 3" religions of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. A lot of buddhist temples did it too.

In conclusion i believe humans are programmed from years of evolution to believe in an afterlife and a greater existence as a whole, but people are not all the same. True non-belief is still an outlier to the whole of society, but it does exist.
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Humans have an ability that other animals do not: We can imagine. That is good, but also dark. Imagining life as short, bleak, and meaningless is BAD for a species to survive and life was HARD in ancient times. Looking to something great beyond this life ensured people tried to live. That was important to survival, and thus it thrived among humans. It was a huge help in ancient times increasing our will to live so to speak.
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Imagining a wonderful afterlife is actually bad for species survival because it de-emphasizes what must be done to survive in this life. Atheists (what few there truly are) usually argue that they make more out of life because they know it's all they've got. There's no heaven to use as a crutch.
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