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Old 08-07-2014, 10:05 AM  
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Russian bombers penetrated U.S. airspace at least 16 times in past 10 days

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...e-least-16-ti/

Russian strategic nuclear bombers conducted at least 16 incursions into northwestern U.S. air defense identification zones over the past 10 days, an unusually sharp increase in aerial penetrations, according to U.S. defense officials.

The numerous flight encounters by Tu-95 Russian Bear H bombers prompted the scrambling of U.S. jet fighters on several occasions, and come amid heightened U.S.-Russia tensions over Ukraine. Also, during one bomber incursion near Alaska, a Russian intelligence-gathering jet was detected along with the bombers.

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Old 08-07-2014, 10:07 AM   #2
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......And why weren't they shotdown....?
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:07 AM   #3
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:08 AM   #4
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:08 AM   #5
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......And why weren't they shotdown....?
Because we aren't at war with Russia.
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:10 AM   #6
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It is interesting, though.

Our Rivet Joint was in international airspace and they painted it with targeting radar. Basically, they "locked on" to it for a missile shot.

These Bears penetrated our airspace. I wonder if our guys did the same?

I wonder if the Russians even knew that our fighters were there until visual.
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:11 AM   #7
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Because we aren't at war with Russia.
So that makes it ok to enter our Air Space with bombers?
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:13 AM   #8
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So that makes it ok to enter our Air Space with bombers?
No, it doesn't. But it doesn't automatically justify hostilities, either. This is just Cold War II fun (hopefully).
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:13 AM   #9
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Russian strategic nuclear bombers conducted at least 16 incursions into northwestern U.S. air defense identification zones over the past 10 days...

An Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ) is airspace over land or water in which the identification, location, and control of civil aircraft is required in the interest of national security.[1] They extend beyond a country's airspace to give the country more time to respond to foreign and possibly hostile aircraft.[2] The authority to establish an ADIZ is not given by any international treaty nor prohibited by international law and is not regulated by any international body.[2][3]

The first ADIZ was established by the United States soon after World War II. Following the incident of September 11, 2001 (September 11 attacks) when civilian commercial aircraft was abused for mass destruction, ADIZ became prominent as a method to prepare or control a foreign aircraft from entering their territory. About 20 countries and regions now have such zones including Canada, India,[4] Japan, Pakistan, Norway and the United Kingdom, People's Republic of China, South Korea, Taiwan, United States, Sweden, Iceland and more. Russia and North Korea have unofficial ADIZ for themselves as well. [1][2][5] Usually such zones only cover undisputed territory, do not apply to foreign aircraft not intending to enter territorial airspace, and do not overlap.[3][6]

The United States maintains four zones: The Contiguous US ADIZ; Alaska ADIZ; Guam ADIZ; and Hawaii ADIZ.[1] Under U.S. law and policy, the zone applies only to commercial aircraft intending to enter U.S. airspace.[1] An air defense command and control structure was developed in 1950, creating five Air Defense Identification Zones around North America. If radio interrogation failed to identify an aircraft in the ADIZ, the Air Force launched interceptor aircraft to identify the intruder visually. The air defense system reached its peak in 1962, however with the deployment of the SS-6 ICBM in the USSR, strategic threats shifted overwhelmingly to ICBM attacks, and bomber intrusions were considered to be less of a threat. It does apply to aircraft passing through the zone to other countries.


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Old 08-07-2014, 10:17 AM   #10
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An Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ) is airspace over land or water in which the identification, location, and control of civil aircraft is required in the interest of national security.[1] They extend beyond a country's airspace to give the country more time to respond to foreign and possibly hostile aircraft.[2] The authority to establish an ADIZ is not given by any international treaty nor prohibited by international law and is not regulated by any international body.[2][3]

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The United States maintains four zones: The Contiguous US ADIZ; Alaska ADIZ; Guam ADIZ; and Hawaii ADIZ.[1] Under U.S. law and policy, the zone applies only to commercial aircraft intending to enter U.S. airspace.[1] An air defense command and control structure was developed in 1950, creating five Air Defense Identification Zones around North America. If radio interrogation failed to identify an aircraft in the ADIZ, the Air Force launched interceptor aircraft to identify the intruder visually. The air defense system reached its peak in 1962, however with the deployment of the SS-6 ICBM in the USSR, strategic threats shifted overwhelmingly to ICBM attacks, and bomber intrusions were considered to be less of a threat. It does apply to aircraft passing through the zone to other countries.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Def...ification_Zone
Yep.

http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...adiz-jan09.pdf
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:23 AM   #11
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It is interesting, though.

Our Rivet Joint was in international airspace and they painted it with targeting radar. Basically, they "locked on" to it for a missile shot.

These Bears penetrated our airspace. I wonder if our guys did the same?

I wonder if the Russians even knew that our fighters were there until visual.
Of course we did..
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:24 AM   #12
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Of course we did..
Actually, I seriously doubt they did. We most likely intercepted with F-22s.
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Actually, I seriously doubt they did. We most likely intercepted with F-22s.
How long does it take to get an F22 off the ground and behind a russian bomber? I've always wondered how quickly that occurs.
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:49 AM   #14
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How long does it take to get an F22 off the ground and behind a russian bomber? I've always wondered how quickly that occurs.
I belive they have a certain number of aricraft up on patrol at any given time

also, i believe they always have a few aircraft and pilots designated and ready for scramble so they can be up in just a couple of minutes
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:54 AM   #15
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How long does it take to get an F22 off the ground and behind a russian bomber? I've always wondered how quickly that occurs.
Kinda depends on the distances!

The article says that our jets scrambled, so these were likely ready aircraft. Figure they were airborne and heading toward the bogeys in a few minutes. With super-cruise on.
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