Chiefs 49ers request permission to interview Chris Ballard - Page 2

stumppy · 01-02-2017, 10:22 AM

DO NOT break up the band.

DJ's left nut · 01-02-2017, 10:26 AM

It happens to successful organizations - you lose good lieutenants.

Your hope is that's all they are; lieutenants. When the Cards lost Luhnow, they lost the actual brains of their organization and got left with a bowtie wearing schmuck that knows just enough to not lose 90 games and beat on the doofus ****s like Jim Hendry, but not enough to run with legitimately savvy organizations.

So do we think Ballard is the brains and Dorsey's just a lucky figurehead? Nah...I don't. And if that's the case, the Chiefs will be okay. There's no shortage of good football minds and talent scouts out there. The key is the ability to blend them all in a cohesive unit that's all pulling on the same side of the rope with the same set of ideas. I would think that would be Dorsey's responsibility and it shouldn't be too difficult for him to find another smart scout to plug in. That's the nature of good leadership; it replaces pieces and keeps chugging.

As for the coaching staff, I sure hope they don't lose Toub but I suspect they probably will; he's due a shot at the big chair.

BryanBusby · 01-02-2017, 10:34 AM

Dorsey has had years to prepare for it to finally happen. Don't think Ballard will take that job, or even get offered.

Think they will lock in on mcd and a guy he takes with him from NE as GM.

RippedmyFlesh · 01-02-2017, 10:34 AM

Toub certainly deserves a shot but I am hoping he enjoys the situation he is in. I remember reid saying it was toub's call as far as the wilson fake punt. Letting your ST coach make that call shows they give him a significant say.

DJ's left nut · 01-02-2017, 10:40 AM

I actually worry a bit about losing Al Harris to a promotion of some sort. You don't see a ton of DB coaches make the move to the DC gig (I tend to think of LB coaches getting that gig for some reason). But perhaps some team will give him greater responsibility with an inside track at being the next in line.

They need to do whatever they can to hold onto Harris, IMO. Emmitt Thomas is the elder statesman and face of the secondary but I have to believe it's Harris that's doing the bulk of the coaching and Thomas is more of a figurehead.

**The Bad Guy** · 01-02-2017, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I actually worry a bit about losing Al Harris to a promotion of some sort. You don't see a ton of DB coaches make the move to the DC gig (I tend to think of LB coaches getting that gig for some reason). But perhaps some team will give him greater responsibility with an inside track at being the next in line.

They need to do whatever they can to hold onto Harris, IMO. Emmitt Thomas is the elder statesman and face of the secondary but I have to believe it's Harris that's doing the bulk of the coaching and Thomas is more of a figurehead.

They may just have Emmitt slide into an advisory role like they did with Tommie Brasher.

rico · 01-02-2017, 10:43 AM

You know, my first impression of the 49ers was that I liked them...I liked Montana and I loved the best down the 49ers gave Elway in the 89 or 90 a Super Bowl.

Anymore, though...I am really starting to hate that team.

DJ's left nut · 01-02-2017, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rico

You know, my first impression of the 49ers was that I liked them...I liked Montana and I loved the best down the 49ers gave Elway in the 89 or 90 a Super Bowl.

Anymore, though...I am really starting to hate that team.

'Effete Raiders' as your team's personality doesn't have the staying power that you think it might...

CaliforniaChief · 01-02-2017, 11:32 AM

If the 49'ers recent track record tells us anything, they'll interview Chris Ballard and hire Scott Pioli.

TEX · 01-02-2017, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

If the 49'ers recent track record tells us anything, they'll interview Chris Ballard and hire Scott Pioli.

Nailed it.

**TribalElder** · 01-02-2017, 11:45 AM

Super Bowl for KC first

Then best of luck to everyone

**The Bad Guy** · 01-02-2017, 12:38 PM

I wouldn't take the SF job if I was Ballard.

Jed York is a ****. He's a meddling **** who couldn't keep an all-world coach and basically forced him out.

NJChiefsFan · 01-02-2017, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I wouldn't take the SF job if I was Ballard.

Jed York is a ****. He's a meddling **** who couldn't keep an all-world coach and basically forced him out.

My friend who is a big 9ers fan text me today and showed me the tweet of York saying "I own this football team, and you don't dismiss owners." Rough spot for 49er fans.

RunKC · 01-02-2017, 01:22 PM

Ian Rapoport

Frustration from #49ers coaches as it relates to GM Trent Baalke: He never talked to them. Never asked em what players they liked. Nothing.

Stay far away from this guy, Chris

ToxSocks · 01-02-2017, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Ian Rapoport

Frustration from #49ers coaches as it relates to GM Trent Baalke: He never talked to them. Never asked em what players they liked. Nothing.

Stay far away from this guy, Chris

?

Chris would be taking Baalke's job. This has no implications at all concerning Chris.

However, it's still an interesting tweet because Knowhomo was circulating a rumor that the Donks want Trent Baalke....

01-02-2017, 10:22 AM	#1
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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-770901	It happens to successful organizations - you lose good lieutenants. Your hope is that's all they are; lieutenants. When the Cards lost Luhnow, they lost the actual brains of their organization and got left with a bowtie wearing schmuck that knows just enough to not lose 90 games and beat on the doofus ****s like Jim Hendry, but not enough to run with legitimately savvy organizations. So do we think Ballard is the brains and Dorsey's just a lucky figurehead? Nah...I don't. And if that's the case, the Chiefs will be okay. There's no shortage of good football minds and talent scouts out there. The key is the ability to blend them all in a cohesive unit that's all pulling on the same side of the rope with the same set of ideas. I would think that would be Dorsey's responsibility and it shouldn't be too difficult for him to find another smart scout to plug in. That's the nature of good leadership; it replaces pieces and keeps chugging. As for the coaching staff, I sure hope they don't lose Toub but I suspect they probably will; he's due a shot at the big chair. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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01-02-2017, 10:34 AM	#3
BryanBusby In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2006 Casino cash: $3169900 VARSITY	Dorsey has had years to prepare for it to finally happen. Don't think Ballard will take that job, or even get offered. Think they will lock in on mcd and a guy he takes with him from NE as GM.
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01-02-2017, 10:40 AM	#5
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-770901	I actually worry a bit about losing Al Harris to a promotion of some sort. You don't see a ton of DB coaches make the move to the DC gig (I tend to think of LB coaches getting that gig for some reason). But perhaps some team will give him greater responsibility with an inside track at being the next in line. They need to do whatever they can to hold onto Harris, IMO. Emmitt Thomas is the elder statesman and face of the secondary but I have to believe it's Harris that's doing the bulk of the coaching and Thomas is more of a figurehead. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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RippedmyFlesh Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New York Casino cash: $10005817	Toub certainly deserves a shot but I am hoping he enjoys the situation he is in. I remember reid saying it was toub's call as far as the wilson fake punt. Letting your ST coach make that call shows they give him a significant say.
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The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9283645	I wouldn't take the SF job if I was Ballard. Jed York is a **. He's a meddling ** who couldn't keep an all-world coach and basically forced him out. __________________
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01-02-2017, 01:22 PM	#14
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1560389	Ian Rapoport Frustration from #49ers coaches as it relates to GM Trent Baalke: He never talked to them. Never asked em what players they liked. Nothing. Stay far away from this guy, Chris __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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