2016-2017 NFL Coach/GM changes and hires

[RippedmyFlesh]

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

I guess you see Haley differently than I do....he may have matured from a personality point of view, but I see him no differently than I and others see Wade Phillips......a great assistant coach but nowhere near Head Coach material.

More a morbid curiosity than believing he would win. I will be interested to see how he does if he gets another shot.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh

Haley would provide that. I would like to see him get another shot.

Likewise.

The lens of History (and the stank of Scott Pioli) puts a very different view of Haley's tenure here than there was in real-time.

In hindsight, Haley was a damn miracle worker. And while the weapons in Pittsburgh make a big difference, he's always been a good offensive mind.

I'm not sure if he's truly HC material; he may be too vested in playing with the offense and not enough in being an administrator but I think he's earned another look. After plowing through some rough patches with Ben, I think he's earned their trust and established that he can relate to players again.

I think he'd be among the better guys hired if given another shot and honestly, the Chargers seem like a nice spot for him.

[NWTF]

I could see Bill O'Brian immediately being on the hot seat for next year if Oakland goes in there with their 3rd string QB and somehow wins. I dont think they will but if they do that would have to be a huge punch to the gut to the Texans. This is kind of the perfect setup for them to finally get a playoff win. The Raiders arent playoff caliber now.

I dont think theyd fire him over it, but he will have to do more next year than just eeking out a shitty division for a one and done.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Likewise.

The lens of History (and the stank of Scott Pioli) puts a very different view of Haley's tenure here than there was in real-time.

In hindsight, Haley was a damn miracle worker. And while the weapons in Pittsburgh make a big difference, he's always been a good offensive mind.

I'm not sure if he's truly HC material; he may be too vested in playing with the offense and not enough in being an administrator but I think he's earned another look. After plowing through some rough patches with Ben, I think he's earned their trust and established that he can relate to players again.

I think he'd be among the better guys hired if given another shot and honestly, the Chargers seem like a nice spot for him.

I understand everyone wanting to give Haley the benefit of the doubt....partly because of Pioli and his stupidity. But you have to admit he didn't help himself with some of his inability to adapt during the game.

I see we agree on the fact that he is a great Offensive Coach....I just don't think he had a keen eye for the other side of the ball and how to adjust properly during the game.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Likewise.

The lens of History (and the stank of Scott Pioli) puts a very different view of Haley's tenure here than there was in real-time.

In hindsight, Haley was a damn miracle worker. And while the weapons in Pittsburgh make a big difference, he's always been a good offensive mind.

I'm not sure if he's truly HC material; he may be too vested in playing with the offense and not enough in being an administrator but I think he's earned another look. After plowing through some rough patches with Ben, I think he's earned their trust and established that he can relate to players again.

I think he'd be among the better guys hired if given another shot and honestly, the Chargers seem like a nice spot for him.

This

Haley should and will get another shot somewhere

He was stuck with a top 3 terrible GM and there wasnt a damn thing he could do about it

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

It will be interesting to see which new names appear as first time HC's... I think the Jags would be mistaken to lure Coughlin from retirement, the dude is 70.

McDaniels will find a new home and possibly do better the 2nd time around. Would be interesting to see him go to SF and trade for Jimmy G. Rams gig is interesting, but you're rebuilding without a first rounder this year and lots of issues.

Grab your popcorn.

Trading for Garappolo would be a mistake, IMO.

You have really no idea what you're working with there (and really, this is the same McDaniels that wanted Cassel when he went to Denver; why trust his judgment?).

And the biggest problem by far is that you're going to face exactly what the Redskins are running into with Cousins. After his good 2015, his first full season as a starter, they had no idea what to do with him so they tagged him. Now the tag is prohibitive and they're going to have to either pay him elite QB money or lose him.

And that's the best case scenario - the worst case is an Osweiler situation where he's not great but not bad either and you just throw a big number at him to give yourself a chance to find out one way or the other.

Trading for a pending FA with absolutely no idea if he's an NFL player or not is a bad idea, IMO. It just puts you behind the 8 ball from a long-term contractual standpoint.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

McDaniels will find a new home and possibly do better the 2nd time around. Would be interesting to see him go to SF and trade for Jimmy G. Grab your popcorn.

You are damn fortunate Pioli beat McDaniels to the punch on that Cassel deal. Otherwise you would be saying Casshole in Denver.

[BryanBusby]

Unless you really really love Jared Goff, the Rams gig is kinda shitty actually.

[Al Bundy]

Chuck Pagano is set to meet with the media at 1:30 ET.

[BryanBusby]

Haley got a bad shot here. I don't think he would want to even **** with Blake Bortles. Bortles is.shit.

I think he holds out for Arians to die on the sideline and land the AZ gig or for Tomlin to go.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Haley got a bad shot here. I don't think he would want to even **** with Blake Bortles. Bortles is.shit.

I think he holds out for Arians to die on the sideline and land the AZ gig or for Tomlin to go.

Haley made his own bed here and turned it from a Sleep Number Bed into a bed of nails. His immaturity led to his demise....

And no one who would come here would want to inherit Bortles. Many here whisper his name in the same sentence as Blaine Gabbert. I am guessing whoever comes here will want to give Bortles a shot but will want to have a good QB to give him some competition.

As for where Haley lands....I think that he has a better shot at getting the AZ job than he does the Steelers job.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

Haley made his own bed here and turned it from a Sleep Number Bed into a bed of nails. His immaturity led to his demise....

And no one who would come here would want to inherit Bortles. Many here whisper his name in the same sentence as Blaine Gabbert. I am guessing whoever comes here will want to give Bortles a shot but will want to have a good QB to give him some competition.

As for where Haley lands....I think that he has a better shot at getting the AZ job than he does the Steelers job.

I think you're discounting a couple things.

How much Pioli made people batshit insane and how many coaches ultimately failed at their first gigs. Most of the SB winners lately were retreads.

I also disagree with your opener. It's a win now business and Pioli refused to ever accept that Matt Cassel ****ing sucked and refused to replace him or get real competition. Haley could throw a toddler fit and nobody would ****ing care if he won the game.

You're discounting how ****ing bad Matt Cassel really is.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

I think you're discounting a couple things.

How much Pioli made people batshit insane and how many coaches ultimately failed at their first gigs. Most of the SB winners lately were retreads.

I also disagree with your opener. It's a win now business and Pioli refused to ever accept that Matt Cassel ****ing sucked and refused to replace him or get real competition. Haley could throw a toddler fit and nobody would ****ing care if he won the game.

You're discounting how ****ing bad Matt Cassel really is.

I absolutely remember how pathetic Matt Cassel was and still is....and his recent gig with the Titans just reminds everyone. I also remember Haley was stuck with Kyle Orton, Tyler Palko and Ricky Stanzi.

I also remember his temper getting the best of him in a game and getting a 15 yard Unsportsman Like Conduct penalty.

I will stick with my assessment....he is a great offensive mind but not Head Coach material.

And if I am wrong...it wouldn't be the first time.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

I absolutely remember how pathetic Matt Cassel was and still is....and his recent gig with the Titans just reminds everyone. I also remember Haley was stuck with Kyle Orton, Tyler Palko and Ricky Stanzi.

I also remember his temper getting the best of him in a game and getting a 15 yard Unsportsman Like Conduct penalty.

I will stick with my assessment....he is a great offensive mind but not Head Coach material.

And if I am wrong...it wouldn't be the first time.

Feel free but can't say he got a fair shake here.

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