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Old 01-08-2018, 10:24 AM   #1
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There's no reason to believe in some massive game-fixing conspiracy.
Not at all,even if the 1919 World series,'78-'79 Boston College Scandal,Tim Donaghy '07 NBA scandal happened there's no reason to even entertain the idea it might be happening in the NFL?
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Old 01-08-2018, 10:41 AM   #2
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Not at all,even if the 1919 World series,'78-'79 Boston College Scandal,Tim Donaghy '07 NBA scandal happened there's no reason to even entertain the idea it might be happening in the NFL?
We're not talking about a handful of players shaving points here, these tinfoilers are alleging the NFL is running a centralized conspiracy league-wide to manipulate most outcomes, which would involve hundreds and hundreds of people over decades, none of whom have ever let a peep slip out about it.

And, of course, when the outcomes go our way or go against teams we don't like, nobody thinks there's any corruption. They probably tried to swing that game but failed. It's all confirmation bias
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:03 AM   #3
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We're not talking about a handful of players shaving points here, these tinfoilers are alleging the NFL is running a centralized conspiracy league-wide to manipulate most outcomes, which would involve hundreds and hundreds of people over decades, none of whom have ever let a peep slip out about it.

And, of course, when the outcomes go our way or go against teams we don't like, nobody thinks there's any corruption. They probably tried to swing that game but failed. It's all confirmation bias
I wouldn't say none,there's one helluva read out there called Interference:How Organized Crime Influences Professional Football.

If nothing else just watch the first 35 seconds of this....

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Old 01-08-2018, 10:46 AM   #4
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Officiating is so horridly reeruned that it defeats the purpose of even playing the game. I see holdings and blocks in the back all day long with no flags and then they call it when it DOESN'T happen just to **** us out of a huge play that might have won us the game.

It was the same last season with the Steelers 2 point conversion. That was a holding on Fisher but the fact they chose to call it there and not the other 80 times it happened is just dumb.

That "forward progress" fumble by Mariota was possibly THE worst call I've seen. It just makes no sense on any level. He was hit and lost the ball. Bang bang. What's the point of these stupid games? Oh yeah...to steal money from people.
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Old 01-08-2018, 10:55 AM   #5
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It's human error. In real time with the human eye most things go unseen. When every player has a camera on them and slowed down to super slow motion things are seen. When you attend a game live, you don't notice 99% of the shit that is called out.
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:00 AM   #6
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Just saw some still photos on Newton being outside the box on the grounding call.

Is that a reviewable play?
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:02 AM   #7
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Just saw some still photos on Newton being outside the box on the grounding call.

Is that a reviewable play?
Not now.
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:07 AM   #8
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Just saw some still photos on Newton being outside the box on the grounding call.

Is that a reviewable play?
It was iffy to tell in real time.
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:01 AM   #9
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I've said it for years now...refs are ruining the NFL.

It's getting to be unwatchable.
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:06 AM   #10
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One more thing while we are talking about the NFL. I know this concussion protocol is supposed to help player safety but in my opinion it could be detrimental to player because teams could target star players to knock them out of games due to the protocol(Travis Kelce).
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:57 AM   #11
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Losers complain about the refs.

Perennial losers complain about the refs AND say the game is rigged.

Most of you sound like ****ing crybabies 24/7. It’s not the NFL’s fault your ownership sucks. It’s not the NFL’s fault your HC is solid but not great. It’s not the NFL’s fault you haven’t had decent QBs. Shut... the... ****... up.
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:01 PM   #12
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Losers complain about the refs.

Perennial losers complain about the refs AND say the game is rigged.

Most of you sound like ****ing crybabies 24/7. It’s not the NFL’s fault your ownership sucks. It’s not the NFL’s fault your HC is solid but not great. It’s not the NFL’s fault you haven’t had decent QBs. Shut... the... ****... up.
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:02 PM   #13
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Losers complain about the refs.

Perennial losers complain about the refs AND say the game is rigged.

Most of you sound like ****ing crybabies 24/7. It’s not the NFL’s fault your ownership sucks. It’s not the NFL’s fault your HC is solid but not great. It’s not the NFL’s fault you haven’t had decent QBs. Shut... the... ****... up.
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Losers complain about the refs.

Perennial losers complain about the refs AND say the game is rigged.

Most of you sound like ****ing crybabies 24/7. It’s not the NFL’s fault your ownership sucks. It’s not the NFL’s fault your HC is solid but not great. It’s not the NFL’s fault you haven’t had decent QBs. Shut... the... ****... up.
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Winners win.

Losers complain about the refs.

Perennial losers complain about the refs AND say the game is rigged.

Most of you sound like ****ing crybabies 24/7. It’s not the NFL’s fault your ownership sucks. It’s not the NFL’s fault your HC is solid but not great. It’s not the NFL’s fault you haven’t had decent QBs. Shut... the... ****... up.
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