Creed Humphrey Extension with Chiefs

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by Dante84

Jawaan is the biggest albatross on our cap, dollars for production. Similar to Frank a few years back.

With that said, I'd bet every team in the league has at least one contract that they'd like to have back at any given time.

Yep.

A tackle that hasn’t been good and wracks up penalties can kill drives and even worse get your prized qb injured.

[JPH83]

The famed OL rebuild is feeling like it's fraying a little. Crazy how much LT has f**ked us. The trenches really haven't been great this year.

[O.city]

Seriously, now that Trent Williams has fallen off physically who's the LT?

Darrisaw maybe? Decker?

Mailata is really good, I'd probably go there.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by O.city

Seriously, now that Trent Williams has fallen off physically who's the LT?

Darrisaw maybe? Decker?

Mailata is really good, I'd probably go there.

Darrisaw gets injured a ton, he's out for this season.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

Seriously, now that Trent Williams has fallen off physically who's the LT?

Darrisaw maybe? Decker?

Mailata is really good, I'd probably go there.

Wirfs is probably the guy I like the most. Slater is right there. And Tunsil remains about as reliable a pass protector as the league has -- been that guy for a long time now.

Mailata is just in such a strange offense that I don't know how to grade him. Miller and Bolles have both developed into really nice OTs.

Taylor Moton's carrying a $31 million cap hit next season but as he enters his walk year with 3 void years left on his deal (and a young QB) that seems to make him more of a prime extension candidate in Carolina than a trade target. He's probably right near the top of the next tier of pretty solid OTs but not 'Dudes'.

Bottom line is that I think we need to have Andy at Cam Robinson's front door the moment the legal tampering window opens. I just don't see anybody out there that's close in terms of fit, skill set and availability. And I don't see the Vikings taking a $21 million cap charge to franchise tag him for the purposes of trading him. That would bind them up badly at the start of the FA period and would MAYBE yield them a 4th round pick.

Feels like he really needs to be the big offseason addition and you keep an eye on Kinglsey as a possible Taylor replacement in 2026.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Wirfs is probably the guy I like the most. Slater is right there. And Tunsil remains about as reliable a pass protector as the league has -- been that guy for a long time now.

Mailata is just in such a strange offense that I don't know how to grade him. Miller and Bolles have both developed into really nice OTs.

Taylor Moton's carrying a $31 million cap hit next season but as he enters his walk year with 3 void years left on his deal (and a young QB) that seems to make him more of a prime extension candidate in Carolina than a trade target. He's probably right near the top of the next tier of pretty solid OTs but not 'Dudes'.

Bottom line is that I think we need to have Andy at Cam Robinson's front door the moment the legal tampering window opens. I just don't see anybody out there that's close in terms of fit, skill set and availability. And I don't see the Vikings taking a $21 million cap charge to franchise tag him for the purposes of trading him. That would bind them up badly at the start of the FA period and would MAYBE yield them a 4th round pick.

Feels like he really needs to be the big offseason addition and you keep an eye on Kinglsey as a possible Taylor replacement in 2026.

I'm just not a fan of Tunsil anymore it seems he's physically not the same guy. I dunno. Wirfs was the guy I'd have loved to have had but that's just not a possibility.

Is Andrew Thomas any good? If the Giants wanna reset....I might make a call there.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm just not a fan of Tunsil anymore it seems he's physically not the same guy. I dunno. Wirfs was the guy I'd have loved to have had but that's just not a possibility.

Is Andrew Thomas any good? If the Giants wanna reset....I might make a call there.

Look, ESPN can make me watch Giants games all they want, they CAN'T make me watch the Giants OT.

I have no damn idea if he's any good. I'm just watching Nabors run routes and/or Jones poop on his shoes. There's nothing else worth watching on that team.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Look, ESPN can make me watch Giants games all they want, they CAN'T make me watch the Giants OT.

I have no damn idea if he's any good. I'm just watching Nabors run routes and/or Jones poop on his shoes. There's nothing else worth watching on that team.

He just signed an extension, so nevermind on that one.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm just not a fan of Tunsil anymore it seems he's physically not the same guy. I dunno. Wirfs was the guy I'd have loved to have had but that's just not a possibility.

Is Andrew Thomas any good? If the Giants wanna reset....I might make a call there.

Tunsil is #14 in PBWR right behind Jawaan Taylor. That seems low for Tunsil though so it's probably a sign of decline.

[O.city]

I'm just not seeing a way they fix the LT spot with someone everyone is gonna be happy with.

Unless for some reason Rashawn Slater gets away from the Bolts in a year or two.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm just not seeing a way they fix the LT spot with someone everyone is gonna be happy with.

Unless for some reason Rashawn Slater gets away from the Bolts in a year or two.

I'd be happy with Robinson. Not elated, but content.

But man, if we sign him, everyone saying "WE NEED TO PROTECT MAHOMES REGARDLESS OF COST!!!" is gonna be pissed when the numbers come out.

I don't think he'd re-set the OT market, but I could see him landing in the $22-23 million range with a pretty good chunk of that guaranteed. He'll start at the Dion Dawkins deal and probably get about a 5-10% kicker based on cap increases.

Nobody's gonna be super stoked about that but it is what it is.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm just not seeing a way they fix the LT spot with someone everyone is gonna be happy with.

Unless for some reason Rashawn Slater gets away from the Bolts in a year or two.

The analogy is not exactly 100% aligned, but it may require a replication of the Chiefs strategy when they decided to trade up to draft Mahomes.

Trading up into the top 10 to get their guy, if there is a left tackle prospect they view as elite.

Of course trading from maybe 32nd overall to the top 10 is a bigger hurdle than trading from #27 to #10 as they did for Mahomes, and trading up for a QB vs a Left Tackle can be questioned in terms of value as well.

But if the Chiefs view Will Campbell as an elite LT who can finally lockdown and secure Mahomes' blind side for the remainder of his career... seems like a trade up worth looking at.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88

The analogy is not exactly 100% aligned, but it may require a replication of the Chiefs strategy when they decided to trade up to draft Mahomes.

Trading up into the top 10 to get their guy, if there is a left tackle prospect they view as elite.

Of course trading from maybe 32nd overall to the top 10 is a bigger hurdle than trading from #27 to #10 as they did for Mahomes, and trading up for a QB vs a Left Tackle can be questioned in terms of value as well.

But if the Chiefs view Will Campbell as an elite LT who can finally lockdown and secure Mahomes' blind side for the remainder of his career... seems like a trade up worth looking at.

I'm not trading up that far for anything but a QB I don't think.

To many other ways to get atleast servicable at LT.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm not trading up that far for anything but a QB I don't think.

To many other ways to get atleast servicable at LT.

Agree in principle, but I'm not sure serviceable at LT is that easily attained, at the risk of making DJ's point for him. Next year the FA options aren't great outside of Ronnie Stanley. The year after is great, but we'll have Creed and Taylor on whopping contracts, and then we're back to some really thin years.

If we go through the draft and roll the dice on another project that doesn't work out, I mean how many years do we want to keep this going before we commit to a blue-chip? I guess when we stop winning SBs is the obvious answer.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88

The analogy is not exactly 100% aligned, but it may require a replication of the Chiefs strategy when they decided to trade up to draft Mahomes.

Trading up into the top 10 to get their guy, if there is a left tackle prospect they view as elite.

Of course trading from maybe 32nd overall to the top 10 is a bigger hurdle than trading from #27 to #10 as they did for Mahomes, and trading up for a QB vs a Left Tackle can be questioned in terms of value as well.

But if the Chiefs view Will Campbell as an elite LT who can finally lockdown and secure Mahomes' blind side for the remainder of his career... seems like a trade up worth looking at.

There ain't no way after this year the Chiefs are going to require another really high end draft that puts multiple starters on the field early on.