Offensive struggles the last 2 years are personnel driven, not coaching

[Sassy Squatch]

I mean, for ****s sake, your left side of the line is Joe Thuney and Mike Caliendo. No ****ing shit it's going to be near impossible to throw a deep shot.

[PHOG]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

I mean, for ****s sake, your left side of the line is Joe Thuney and Mike Caliendo. No ****ing shit it's going to be near impossible to throw a deep shot.

Except (In RunKCs pic) one is coming thru Smith, and another around Taylor, not to mention the one that (while somehow holding up Caliendo from falling on his face again) is about to slam Mahomes into the ground.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by PHOG

Except (In RunKCs pic) one is coming thru Smith, and another around Taylor, not to mention the one that (while somehow holding up Caliendo from falling on his face again) is about to slam Mahomes into the ground.

Smith and Taylor are at least providing token resistance. Caliendos man already has Mahomes Jersey in his hand as he's winding up to throw. Not sure what point you're trying to make here.

[PHOG]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Smith and Taylor are at least providing token resistance. Caliendos man already has Mahomes Jersey in his hand as he's winding up to throw. Not sure what point you're trying to make here.

I guess, that if Mahomes wanted to step up in the (pocket), he has no where to go, and it's hard to tell by that pick but it looks as if Smith has his arm around the defenders neck. I totally agree Caliendo shouldn't have been in there. IMO

[dlphg9]

I find it funny how everyone was so excited about Nagy, because he had given Mahomes insider info before his interview. They thought Nagy was going to bring out the best in Mahomes and now there is a pretty big group that hates him lol

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

I find it funny how everyone was so excited about Nagy, because he had given Mahomes insider info before his interview. They thought Nagy was going to bring out the best in Mahomes and now there is a pretty big group that hates him lol

Twasn't me. ****ing hated the idea, especially after the article about how shitty in particular he ended up being in Chicago was penned.

[BWillie]

The reason we havent been as good offensively is because Kelce is no longer unstoppable. Without the best TE of all time this is who Mahomes is.

[xztop123]

Originally Posted by BWillie

The reason we havent been as good offensively is because Kelce is no longer unstoppable. Without the best TE of all time this is who Mahomes is.

Kelce and offense wasn’t that good without mahomes with alex smith. Alex smith put up similar numbers elsewhere too

Mahomes had historic college numbers with no kelce

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by xztop123

Kelce and offense wasn’t that good without mahomes with alex smith. Alex smith put up similar numbers elsewhere too

Mahomes had historic college numbers with no kelce

And?

Of course Mahomes is better than Alex Smith. By alot.

He is not THEE best of all time though...unless he has elite Kelce by his side. Kelce is better at his position than Mahomes is at his. Although they are both elite.

[xztop123]

Originally Posted by BWillie

And?

Of course Mahomes is better than Alex Smith. By alot.

He is not THEE best of all time though...unless he has elite Kelce by his side. Kelce is better at his position than Mahomes is at his. Although they are both elite.

Travis Kelce gas a menial job compared to qb. He wouldn’t have ever even played in a sb if not for mahomes. It’s like saying the lady that is my receptionist is better type writer than Mahomes is qb. Who cares

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by xztop123

Travis Kelce gas a menial job compared to qb. He wouldn’t have ever even played in a sb if not for mahomes. It’s like saying the lady that is my receptionist is better type writer than Mahomes is qb. Who cares

I actually think you have it the other way around. Mahomes is still more important than Kelce yes. But Kelce is a tad better at his position than Mahomes is.

I don't think it is outlandish, at all, to say Mahomes would not have been to a SB or at least not won a SB had it been for Kelce.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by BWillie

And?

Of course Mahomes is better than Alex Smith. By alot.

He is not THEE best of all time though...unless he has elite Kelce by his side. Kelce is better at his position than Mahomes is at his. Although they are both elite.

I think Patrick has tunnel vision for Kelce and ignores other guys too often. The best games of Patrick's career (both college and professional) have been when he spreads the ball around to a bunch of different guys. The QB trying to force the ball to an aging, slow tight end is a very bad strategy. From that standpoint, I am looking forward to Kelce's retirement.

Not having Kelce on the field will force Patrick to simply throw to the open guy, no matter what the name is on the jersey. What other choice do you have? He had a game back in 2021 (Steelers) where Kelce didn't play at all and Tyreek barely played. Mahomes torched them by just spreading the ball around to a lot of different JAG guys:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/...401326565#home

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by BWillie

The reason we havent been as good offensively is because Kelce is no longer unstoppable. Without the best TE of all time this is who Mahomes is.

And with a shitty LT situation, which is the biggest issue. There's not a QB in the world that would do very well with craptastic Left Tackle play and questionable weapons.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by DRM08

And with a shitty LT situation, which is the biggest issue. There's not a QB in the world that would do very well with craptastic Left Tackle play and questionable weapons.

Our offensive line was better than most teams with great QBs. Yes LT was rough at times but there was a stretch with Thuney were it was very solid...until it wasn't. Mahomes, more times than not, saw ghosts.

[SHOWTIME]

2025 will be the most important year for Mahomes thus far. He has to have a statement season to quiet the critics. If he continues to play poorly, you can't blame the offensive line this time around.