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Old 06-20-2006, 11:37 AM   #1
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I guess that as a woman, it also doesn't bother you that women make 75 cents on the dollar for what a man makes in the same occupation. Nothing like cutting off your nose to spite your face
Not so fast, Lenin.

One of the main reasons women make less is because they choose professions that pay less but provide more flexibility in time and committment, take periods of time out of their careers and/or do not want the responsibility that such positions brings due to conflicts with other personal choices etc. It's a matter of having a different set of priorities, needs and wants. Why is it that homosexuals choices are considered innate, even genetic, but not a woman's choices? Little inconsistent aren't we?

Subject of a different thread.
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Old 06-20-2006, 12:37 PM   #2
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And the Bible was written by a bunch of semi-literate Hebrew tribesmen who would be considered schizophrenic by the standards of the DSM-IV.

I guess that as a woman, it also doesn't bother you that women make 75 cents on the dollar for what a man makes in the same occupation. Nothing like cutting off your nose to spite your face
I make more than anyone on my shift at work. I really don't see what that has to do with this discussion. Is your future wife gonna be the head of your household? Call me old-fashioned, but I was not in on the woman's lib movement.
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Old 06-20-2006, 01:12 PM   #3
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I guess that as a woman, it also doesn't bother you that women make 75 cents on the dollar for what a man makes in the same occupation. Nothing like cutting off your nose to spite your face
It doesn't bother me at all. Ever ask yourself why women only make 75 cents on the dollar? Why wouldn't a profit-maximizing firm hire all women? There's an obvious reason women earn less than men, and it has nothing to do with disrimination.

For low-skilled jobs with no training required, women make as much as men. For high-skilled jobs that require long-term on-the-job training, women make much less than men. Why? Because women are much more likely to temporalily or permanently leave the job market, in which case the firm is ****ed for having invested in the employee who will not be around very long.
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Old 06-20-2006, 04:02 PM   #4
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I don't trust any woman that is in a leadership role at a church (church, not sunday school class or women's outreach ministries). There are also passages in the bible about that, too.
I was all supportive of you in other threads, until this statement. What the hell makes it right for a woman to teach Sunday School, but not preach? Or lead a Bible study, but not a church board? Seriously...that's assanine and ignorant.
According to the Gospels of John, Luke, and Mark, and even Matthew... Can I just say that if it wasn't for Mary Magdalene - that noone would have even heard Jesus was resurrected? If it wasn't for Mary, the Mother of Jesus, Jesus wouldn't have been born? What does that say about God's belief about the role of women in the church? That God chose to appear resurrected to them first and deem them to tell everyone else? And any passage you quote from Scripture about women keeping silent are from the letters of Paul....and they address a specific church at a specific time who had problem people in those churches.... Did you know that the first "deacons" or "ministers" (it's the same word in Greek) of the church that were ordained, by Paul, were women???? You might have heard of Priscilla???
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Old 06-20-2006, 04:27 PM   #5
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What the hell makes it right for a woman to teach Sunday School, but not preach?
Something is just not right with this sentence.
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Old 06-20-2006, 10:28 AM   #6
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Not sure if she read the whole book or not but she might want to re-read it because I believe the whole 10 comandments are not just suggestions. Just because a society doesn't observe certain rules doesn't make that society right. I know people will say they believe that the the bible is not soverign but to many it is and this is an abomination of that. (IMO) She might want to read that last book where God does judge people. Also she might want to be familiar with love the person but hate the sin.
Which one of the ten commandments covers homosexuality?
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Old 06-20-2006, 12:33 PM   #7
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Which one of the ten commandments covers homosexuality?
You shall not commit adultery. It basically covers any sexual relation outside of the marriage bond. Gee, I wonder why those Christians are so up in arms about teh ghey getting married.
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Old 06-21-2006, 11:44 PM   #8
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Its prety dumb how people take so much stock into what the bible says... If i wrote a book and had some stuff in it close to how the bible is, and told everybody to live by it and do everything it says, or you'll go to hell, wouldnt that be considered a cult? In my opinion, thats exactly what people are acting like towards religion and the bible... Its just a set of rules and guidelines that a group of people came up with to get their people to stop acting bad. Laws that are like duh to us, like no killing, no stealing, no cheating on your wife. There is no proof in the bible, and I'd love for anybody to show me some.
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Its prety dumb how people take so much stock into what the bible says... If i wrote a book and had some stuff in it close to how the bible is, and told everybody to live by it and do everything it says, or you'll go to hell, wouldnt that be considered a cult? In my opinion, thats exactly what people are acting like towards religion and the bible... Its just a set of rules and guidelines that a group of people came up with to get their people to stop acting bad. Laws that are like duh to us, like no killing, no stealing, no cheating on your wife. There is no proof in the bible, and I'd love for anybody to show me some.
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Old 06-21-2006, 11:52 PM   #10
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Its prety dumb how people take so much stock into what the bible says... If i wrote a book and had some stuff in it close to how the bible is, and told everybody to live by it and do everything it says, or you'll go to hell, wouldnt that be considered a cult? In my opinion, thats exactly what people are acting like towards religion and the bible... Its just a set of rules and guidelines that a group of people came up with to get their people to stop acting bad. Laws that are like duh to us, like no killing, no stealing, no cheating on your wife. There is no proof in the bible, and I'd love for anybody to show me some.
If you wanted to believe it, you'd try finding it yourself. Following the bible is a choice. You simply choose not to. No need in making others prove the worthiness of their beliefs.
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Old 06-22-2006, 06:46 PM   #11
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Its prety dumb how people take so much stock into what the bible says... If i wrote a book and had some stuff in it close to how the bible is, and told everybody to live by it and do everything it says, or you'll go to hell, wouldnt that be considered a cult? In my opinion, thats exactly what people are acting like towards religion and the bible... Its just a set of rules and guidelines that a group of people came up with to get their people to stop acting bad. Laws that are like duh to us, like no killing, no stealing, no cheating on your wife. There is no proof in the bible, and I'd love for anybody to show me some.
So we were primordial oose that one day evolved enough smarts, that allowed the smartest dude to exert his authority over the rest of the people by making up some laws?

I am just oose. Wow.

When I die, I am just going to be a carcass full of maggots.
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Which one of the ten commandments covers homosexuality?
My response was not on the 10 Commandments itself but as the bible being a sovergn document. Either you believe what it says or you don't you can't pick and choose what rules and commands to or not to follow as I believe she was saying. She is not the only one who does this. All denominations are having this battle today maybe not in the forfront like the Episcopal Church, but they are with their infrastructure as in a liberal intertpretation or a conservative interpretation.
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My response was not on the 10 Commandments itself but as the bible being a sovergn document. Either you believe what it says or you don't you can't pick and choose what rules and commands to or not to follow as I believe she was saying.
I doubt very seriously that you or anyone else adhere to all the rules proscribed in the bible.
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I doubt very seriously that you or anyone else adhere to all the rules proscribed in the bible.
Why would a Christian follow a rule the bible condemns?
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I doubt very seriously that you or anyone else adhere to all the rules proscribed in the bible.

I second this point. Nobody actually follows the bible literally today, which is a good thing IMO.
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