OK, what happen to KSU ? Other B 12 BB questions .

[ROYC75]

I did not get to watch the game last night , How did KSU stink it up in Lincoln ? Saul, William, what went wrong, I had that one pegged as a win for you guys ?

aTm took it last night, somewhat opened the door for KU again. aTm has some tough games left at Texas and Oklahoma ..... will they lose both of them ?

KU has to travel to West Lawrence, is this the year KSU gets the monkey off their backs ? Go to Norman and play OU. Will KU lose 1, 2 or none the rest of the season ?

How many teams make the Big Dance in the B12 ?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

I seen where he had a big game ....... Just like KU, they seem to lose focus .

North Carolina lost to Va Tech last night. I think focus is a problem all across the NCAA. I wonder if it doesn't have something to do with so many young players seeing significant minutes - aka the NBA effect.

[Cochise]

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

Athis point, its an All KU deal....Tech took Texas out and the Hawks are on a big time roll with the power guys really understanding how good they can be. Like it or not Self has the guys coming into their own in perfect timing.

Nebraska is good on some nights and it just happened on a night that Huggy didnt have all the boys on the same page. Too bad cause Neb is no BB team and never will be.

So sit back and enjoy KUs ride, they will go far and do great. Everybody else is second.

Classic KU humbleness and realism.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Cochise

Classic KU humbleness and realism.

I actually think KU is poised for a big run. It's weird watching the Phog crowd melt down about Bill Self in the midst of it all...

[Cochise]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I actually think KU is poised for a big run. It's weird watching the Phog crowd melt down about Bill Self in the midst of it all...

5-13. I mean.... er...

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Cochise

5-13. I mean.... er...

Hey, Butler and Bucknell have reasonable basketball tradition. It's not like they lost to Northwestern State or something...

[KevB]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Do you think maybe some of these guys are just tired? Huggins' style is pretty intense, he expects alot, especially on defense.

I think that's a huge part of it. Hoskins the last two games has looked worn out from the opening tip. Doesn't have the explosiveness around the rim, and his shots are coming up short. KSU shot 8 airballs last night. Cartier had several of those....he's too solid a shooter for that to happen. That screams fatigue to me.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

Yep, so many Shocker fans were tooting their horns early in the year, looks like they ran out of air.

If WSU were to recover and win the conf. tourney, or Bradley, I couls see 4 teams then.

UNI doesn't have a small forward. None. And, nobody on the team can shoot. UNI=Ugh.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

UNI doesn't have a small forward. None. And, nobody on the team can shoot. UNI=Ugh.

They shot well early in the season. I wonder if they have conditioning problems as well.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

They shot well early in the season. I wonder if they have conditioning problems as well.

No, their conditioning seems fine. They don't have a small forward who can make defenses pay. Every team is throwing a 2-3 zone at UNI (as they should) and that is killing our inside game. A good 3 might hit an outside shot or slash to the basket; neither of our options can do those things. I hope the NIT sees fit to provide us with a spot, but we'll need to demonstrate that we can win a game before that happens.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

No, their conditioning seems fine. They don't have a small forward who can make defenses pay. Every team is throwing a 2-3 zone at UNI (as they should) and that is killing our inside game. A good 3 might hit an outside shot or slash to the basket; neither of our options can do those things. I hope the NIT sees fit to provide us with a spot, but we'll need to demonstrate that we can win a game before that happens.

Very true, I guess I didn't think about that. Makes me wonder if Iowa could have beaten them if Alford wasn't so stubborn about Man defense. They started playing more zone about a week before the Big 10 season started and they started winning games...

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Very true, I guess I didn't think about that. Makes me wonder if Iowa could have beaten them if Alford wasn't so stubborn about Man defense. They started playing more zone about a week before the Big 10 season started and they started winning games...

Yes, you would have beaten us. There's no question in my mind. The CF freshman girls team would probably take us running a 2-3.

[DJJasonp]

I think KU will lose at Oklahoma, and A&M loses @Oklahoma State and @Texas.

KU wins the conference outright.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJJasonp

I think KU will lose at Oklahoma, and A&M loses @Oklahoma State and @Texas.

KU wins the conference outright.

I think it's very possible for KU to win out, including the conf tourney...

[Bearcat]

No offense to KSU people, but it's not like they're all that great, and they aren't (yet) used to the winning they have had. They've played some teams tough in losses, but there's only the one above-average win this season.

The upside for them is that if KU wins their next two games, they will be due for a mental lapse @KSU.

(which would put the next lapse in the Big 12 tourney, and then 6 in a row (one can dream, right?))

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

No offense to KSU people, but it's not like they're all that great, and they aren't (yet) used to the winning they have had. They've played some teams tough in losses, but there's only the one above-average win this season.

The upside for them is that if KU wins their next two games, they will be due for a mental lapse @KSU.

(which would put the next lapse in the Big 12 tourney, and then 6 in a row (one can dream, right?))

I know it pisses alot of KU fans when I interject with "unbiased" opinions, but sometimes it seems so clear when you're on the outside looking in.

Personally, if I were a KSU basketball fan, I'd be pretty excited about the future of the program, even if they've had a few bumps here and there this season.