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Old 09-09-2004, 11:39 AM  
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Where can I buy an assault weapon?

I'm not kidding. The ban on assault weapons is ending and is not going to be renewed from what I hear. I want to buy a weapon before they ban them again.

I grew up on a farm and owned several guns (shotguns, handguns, rifles) of different kinds into my late 20's. I sold them several years ago. I used to go hunting from time to time and I used to shoot clay pidgeons too. I'm a naturally good shot. I have been since I was a kid.

Since the school bombing / hostage situation in Russia, I've been thinking that I need to go buy a few guns. You never know what my happen in America. I told my wife this and I couldn't believe that she agreed with me. She is absolutey outraged about the Russian school issue.

We haven't owned any guns in the last few years. This is because my wife has a daycare (9 kids) in our home. It is just too dangerous. You never know what could happen. I'd have guns in my home if it were only my own kids in the house. I'd train them to respect guns and be safe with them. But with someone else's children in our home, the liability risk is just too high. That was our line of thinking until now.

I've been out of the gun world for a while. I'm out of the loop. I'm looking to you guys for advice. Obviously, I want something legal and easy to find. I know where to find a handgun, shotgun, rifle, etc. I want your advice on an assault weapon.

Here's what I am looking for:
1. Cheap. I don't have allot of money to spend.
2. Cheap ammunition.
3. Something that will throw allot of lead in a short time.
4. Something with a large magazine.
5. Something that is easy to shoot and upkeep.
6. Something that will scare the hell out of a terrorist when I point the "business end" of it at his temple.
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Old 09-08-2007, 01:52 AM   #331
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yeah ....sounds kinda scarey....i think we all need to go buy a assult weapon to protect us from this guy!!! for our own sake please reinstate that ban!!!!!!!
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Old 09-08-2007, 02:20 AM   #332
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My brother in law is a gun freak. He has hell of guns. All kinds from a 22 to a AK-47. We used to go to the country and blast them off. Was pretty fun. I am not a gun guy though. Seen to many bad things happen and know to many people that died from them.


I have a dumbass friend who shot a whole through his hand with a glock 40 lol. Stupid ass went to clean the gun and forgot to check the chamber and bam. He couldnt move his hand for like 2 years and alot of rehab.
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Old 09-08-2007, 02:23 AM   #333
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yeah ....sounds kinda scarey....i think we all need to go buy a assult weapon to protect us from this guy!!! for our own sake please reinstate that ban!!!!!!!
No one asked you your opinion n00b. Don't post again until you have at least 1500 posts.

PS - Learn to spell and use proper sentence structure. You read like you've been licking lead paint dolls from China.
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Old 09-08-2007, 02:25 AM   #334
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My brother in law is a gun freak. He has hell of guns. All kinds from a 22 to a AK-47. We used to go to the country and blast them off. Was pretty fun. I am not a gun guy though. Seen to many bad things happen and know to many people that died from them.


I have a dumbass friend who shot a whole through his hand with a glock 40 lol. Stupid ass went to clean the gun and forgot to check the chamber and bam. He couldnt move his hand for like 2 years and alot of rehab.
Checking the chamber is firearms 101. WTF was he thinking?
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Old 09-08-2007, 02:30 AM   #335
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Checking the chamber is firearms 101. WTF was he thinking?
I seriously dont know what. I went over his house a few days later, there was blood on the carpet. There was no excuse except for being a dumbass that time. He's lucky he didnt blow a hole in his damn chest or head. He also had to see a few mind doctors to make sure he wasnt trying to commit suicide, but ughh. I guess he said it was routine or someshit.
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Old 09-08-2007, 08:46 AM   #336
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Old 09-08-2007, 08:55 AM   #337
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Old 09-08-2007, 08:57 AM   #338
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yeah ....sounds kinda scarey....i think we all need to go buy a assult weapon to protect us from this guy!!! for our own sake please reinstate that ban!!!!!!!
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Old 09-08-2007, 10:02 AM   #340
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I try to be open-minded and study both sides of an argument. After studying the gun control issues I have to say that I
now support gun control because...

1. Banning guns works, which is why New York, DC, Detroit & Chicago cops need guns.

2. Washington DC's low murder rate of 69 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, and Indianapolis' high murder rate of 9 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control.

3. Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing increasing murder rates after gun control are "just statistics."

4. The Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons Ban, both of which went into effect in 1994 are responsible for the decrease in violent crime rates, which have been declining since 1991.

5. We must get rid of guns because a deranged lunatic may go on a shooting spree at any time and anyone who would own a gun out of fear of such a lunatic is paranoid.

6. The more helpless you are the safer you are from criminals.

7. An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you.

8. A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet.

9. When confronted by violent criminals, you should "put up no defense - give them what they want, or run" (Handgun Control Inc. Chairman Pete Shields, Guns Don't Die - People Do, 1981, p. 125).

10. The New England Journal of Medicine is filled with expert advice about guns; just like Guns & Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery.

11. One should consult an automotive engineer for safer seat belts, a civil engineer for a better bridge, a surgeon for internal medicine, a computer programmer for hard drive problems, and Sarah Brady for firearms expertise.

12. The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created 130 years later, in 1917.

13. The National Guard, federally funded, with bases on federal land, using federally-owned weapons, vehicles, buildings and uniforms, punishing trespassers under federal law, is a "state" militia.

14. These phrases: "right of the people peaceably to assemble," "right of the people to be secure in their homes," "enumerations herein of certain rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people," and "The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively, and to the people" all refer to individuals, but "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" refers to the state.

15. "The Constitution is strong and will never change." But we should ban and seize all guns thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendments to that Constitution.

16. Rifles and handguns aren't necessary to national defense! Of course, the army has hundreds of thousands of them.

17. Private citizens shouldn't have handguns, because they aren't "military weapons', but private citizens shouldn't have "assault rifles', because they are military weapons.

18. In spite of waiting periods, background checks, fingerprinting, government forms, etc., guns today are too readily available, which is responsible for recent school shootings. In the 1940's, 1950's and 1960's, anyone could buy guns at hardware stores, army surplus stores, gas stations, variety stores, Sears mail order, no waiting, no background check, no fingerprints, no government forms and there were no school shootings.

19. The NRA's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign about kids handling guns is propaganda, but the anti-gun lobby's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign is responsible social activity.

20. Guns are so complex that special training is necessary to use them properly, and so simple to use that they make murder easy.

21. A handgun, with up to 4 controls, is far too complex for the typical adult to learn to use, as opposed to an automobile that only has 20.

22. Women are just as intelligent and capable as men but a woman with a gun is "an accident waiting to happen" and gun makers' advertisements aimed at women are "preying on their fears."

23. Ordinary people in the presence of guns turn into slaughtering butchers but revert to normal when the weapon is removed.

24. Guns cause violence, which is why there are so many mass killings at gun shows.

25. A majority of the population supports gun control, just like a majority of the population supported owning slaves.

26. Any self-loading small arm can legitimately be considered to be a "weapon of mass destruction" or an "assault weapon."

27. Most people can't be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most people will abide by because they can be trusted.

28. The right of Internet pornographers to exist cannot be questioned because it is constitutionally protected by the Bill of Rights, but the use of handguns for self defense is not really protected by the Bill of Rights.

29. Free speech entitles one to own newspapers, transmitters, computers, and typewriters, but self- defense only justifies bare hands.

30. The ACLU is good because it uncompromisingly defends certain parts of the Constitution, and the NRA is bad, because it defends other parts of the Constitution.

31. Charlton Heston, a movie actor as president of the NRA is a cheap lunatic who should be ignored, but Michael Douglas, a movie actor as a representative of Handgun Control, Inc. is an ambassador for peace who is entitled to an audience at the UN arms control summit.

32. Police operate with backup within groups, which is why they need larger capacity pistol magazines than do "civilians" who must face criminals alone and therefore need less ammunition.

33. We should ban "Saturday Night Specials" and other inexpensive guns because it's not fair that poor people have access to guns too.

34. Police officers have some special Jedi-like mastery over handguns that private citizens can never hope to obtain.

35. Private citizens don't need a gun for self- protection because the police are there to protect them even though the Supreme Court says the police are not responsible for their protection.

36. Citizens don't need to carry a gun for personal protection but police chiefs, who are desk-bound administrators who work in a building filled with cops, need a gun.

37. "Assault weapons" have no purpose other than to kill large numbers of people. The police need assault weapons. You do not.

38. When Microsoft pressures its distributors to give Microsoft preferential promotion, that's bad; but when the Federal government pressures cities to buy guns only from Smith & Wesson, that's good.

39. Trigger locks do not interfere with the ability to use a gun for defensive purposes, which is why you see police officers with one on their duty weapon.

40. Handgun Control, Inc., says they want to "keep guns out of the wrong hands." Guess what? You have the wrong hands.
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Old 09-08-2007, 10:15 AM   #341
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I have a dumbass friend who shot a whole through his hand with a glock 40 lol. Stupid ass went to clean the gun and forgot to check the chamber and bam. He couldnt move his hand for like 2 years and alot of rehab.
I have a friend who was a Master Gunnery Sergeant, one week after he retired from the Marine Corps (30 yrs active) he shot off his pinky while cleaning his M1911 45 cal pistol.
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Old 09-08-2007, 10:29 AM   #342
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Old 09-08-2007, 10:48 AM   #343
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kcxiv posted,"....I have a dumbass friend who shot a whole through his hand with a glock 40 lol. Stupid ass went to clean the gun and forgot to check the chamber and bam. He couldnt move his hand for like 2 years and alot of rehab."

Chiefaroo posted, "Checking the chamber is firearms 101. WTF was he thinking?"

He was thinking about talking a glock to the airport when he healed up.

kcxiv, I wasn't aware that you know Bill Maas.
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