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jjjayb · 11-18-2007, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Zouk

Bearcat, if you don't have Peyton Manning or Tom Brady you win playoff games on the road just like this. Ugly it up and win the turnover margin. The historical record is clear on this.

If Herm had Brady or Manning do you really think they would look like Brady or Manning? Or would they be there to just run out the clock for the defense. Cause after all, Herm's philosophy is too many points hurst your defense.

Zouk · 11-18-2007, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb

If Herm had Brady or Manning do you really think they would look like Brady or Manning? Or would they be there to just run out the clock for the defense. Cause after all, Herm's philosophy is too many points hurst your defense.

The Jets were blowing teams out towards the end of 2002.

Of course Herm would play different with Brady or Manning.

**Bearcat** · 11-18-2007, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Zouk

Bearcat, if you don't have Peyton Manning or Tom Brady you win playoff games on the road just like this. Ugly it up and win the turnover margin. The historical record is clear on this.

You don't win playoff games by punting when it's tied 10-10, putting Peyton Manning back on the field. You don't win playoff games by punting again, putting Peyton Manning back on the field again. You don't win playoff games against Peyton Manning by giving the ball back to Peyton Manning!

You're going on the other side of the spectrum... I'm not talking about airing it out, and I'm not talking about Croyle becoming Manning or Brady.

I'm talking about giving Croyle the chance to do what he just did and drive the team down for the TD.

Do you want to talk about history? Wanna talk Marty playoff history? How about Herm's? Come on.... there's a big difference between playing not to lose and playing smart, just like there's a big difference between playing smart and airing it out.

Chief Henry · 11-18-2007, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

You don't win playoff games by punting when it's tied 10-10, putting Peyton Manning back on the field. You don't win playoff games by punting again, putting Peyton Manning back on the field again. You don't win playoff games against Peyton Manning by giving the ball back to Peyton Manning!

You're going on the other side of the spectrum... I'm not talking about airing it out, and I'm not talking about Croyle becoming Manning or Brady.

I'm talking about giving Croyle the chance to do what he just did and drive the team down for the TD.

Do you want to talk about history? Wanna talk Marty playoff history? How about Herm's? Come on.... there's a big difference between playing not to lose and playing smart, just like there's a big difference between playing smart and airing it out.

That one line says it all. Croyle wasn't given the chance to win the game. I beleave he could have too. I really do. Think of the confidence that would have given him !!! Going into Peytons house and BEATING the defending SB champs in ther own crib.

We could have but we didn't even give the kid the chance.

**Bearcat** · 11-18-2007, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Henry

That one line says it all. Croyle wasn't given the chance to win the game. I beleave he could have too. I really do. Think of the confidence that would have given him !!! Going into Peytons house and BEATING the defending SB champs in ther own crib.

We could have but we didn't even give the kid the chance.

Yep... If Herm believed Croyle gives them the best chance to win, why not give him the chance to win? Croyle doesn't strike me as a guy with a fragile mind, who is going to curl up into a ball on the sideline after an interception. He wants to throw it around, and if playing quarterback is anything like life, making a few mistakes along the way is better than being coddled.

headsnap · 11-18-2007, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Henry

That one line says it all. Croyle wasn't given the chance to win the game. I beleave he could have too. I really do. Think of the confidence that would have given him !!! Going into Peytons house and BEATING the defending SB champs in ther own crib.

We could have but we didn't even give the kid the chance.

you don't want to give him too much confidence too quickly...

baby steps...

beach tribe · 11-18-2007, 09:14 PM

Herm is the most cowardace(?) coach that I have ever seen. My most hated Chief ever.

JohninGpt · 11-18-2007, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Herm is the most cowardace(?) coach that I have ever seen. My most hated Chief ever.

Cowardly, like the lion. He's close enough to Kansas, he should find a wizard somewhere to give him courage, and maybe a brain for Mike.

CoMoChief · 11-18-2007, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JohninGpt

Cowardly, like the lion. He's close enough to Kansas, he should find a wizard somewhere to give him courage, and maybe a brain for Mike.

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**Iowanian** · 11-18-2007, 09:17 PM

but but but bRAinman......

Don't you know, if Croyle had thrown an INT, the Chiefs wouldn't have won?

Proper proceedure, as you know is to punt, and hope the other team effs up on the last drive.

Its ARENA football if you don't wait until the last drive to win.

I mean, look at those stupid Patriots, up by 3 TDs with 2 Minutes left in the first half....THROWING.....for another TD.

**Iowanian** · 11-18-2007, 09:20 PM

I'm not pissed.....I expected a loss, and they were in the game.

I'm glad the youngsters are seeing the field....keep that going.

On the other hand, I'd prefer.....while she's very knowledgeable with football......that my wife not be able to predict the Chiefs offensive series'.

**Smed1065** · 11-18-2007, 09:31 PM

Game #1 in the NFL.

Who knows?

Chief Henry · 11-18-2007, 09:50 PM

99.999 % of the people thought we were going to loose. We did loose, but we didn't give our offense the chance to take some swings up at the plate. We all knew manning was going to take his cuts, but herm kept putting up the fricken bunt sign..... A little baseball lingo injected into this thread.

Instead of running into that dam brick wall on every running play, why not just play action pass and pickup 5-7 yards and move the chains? then let Brody try some shots down field.

MadMax · 11-18-2007, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Henry

99.999 % of the people thought we were going to loose. We did loose, but we didn't give our offense the chance to take some swings up at the plate. We all knew manning was going to take his cuts, but herm kept putting up the fricken bunt sign..... A little baseball lingo injected into this thread.

Instead of running into that dam brick wall on every running play, why not just play action pass and pickup 5-7 yards and move the chains? then let Brody try some shots down field.

EXACTLY! It's not that we lost it's how we lost IMHO! Damn give the kid a shot from time to time. i hate this coaching staff at this point, they are absolutely losers....Wow, novel idea ( let Croyle throw the ball ) not just wr screens... I expected us to lose but damn don't just give it away...Defense played lights out...

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan · 11-18-2007, 09:51 PM

Rain Man,

I'm with you. I've been following this team since 1966 and I can't even remember being this torqued off at the team in the late 70s.

At least, I could comfort myself in knowing we just didn't have very good players back then. We've got some players now, we just have a coach who's in over his head and is coaching like he's afraid.

Well, he should be afraid. Keep coaching like this and you WILL be looking for work, bastage!

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11-18-2007, 09:14 PM	#7
beach tribe Keep doubting J MFing Houston Join Date: May 2007 Location: ft.lauderdale Casino cash: $4018036	Herm is the most cowardace(?) coach that I have ever seen. My most hated Chief ever.
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11-18-2007, 09:17 PM	#10
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1818454	but but but bRAinman...... Don't you know, if Croyle had thrown an INT, the Chiefs wouldn't have won? Proper proceedure, as you know is to punt, and hope the other team effs up on the last drive. Its ARENA football if you don't wait until the last drive to win. I mean, look at those stupid Patriots, up by 3 TDs with 2 Minutes left in the first half....THROWING.....for another TD.
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11-18-2007, 09:20 PM	#11
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1818454	I'm not pissed.....I expected a loss, and they were in the game. I'm glad the youngsters are seeing the field....keep that going. On the other hand, I'd prefer.....while she's very knowledgeable with football......that my wife not be able to predict the Chiefs offensive series'.
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11-18-2007, 09:50 PM	#13
Chief Henry MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: IOWA Casino cash: $10005088	99.999 % of the people thought we were going to loose. We did loose, but we didn't give our offense the chance to take some swings up at the plate. We all knew manning was going to take his cuts, but herm kept putting up the fricken bunt sign..... A little baseball lingo injected into this thread. Instead of running into that dam brick wall on every running play, why not just play action pass and pickup 5-7 yards and move the chains? then let Brody try some shots down field. __________________ Patrick Mahomes...The only QB to ever play in the NFL with at least 5,000 passing yards in a single season and 5,000 passing yards in a single college season.
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11-18-2007, 09:51 PM	#15
Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan I am Number Six Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Columbia, MD, USA Casino cash: $-1350000	Rain Man, I'm with you. I've been following this team since 1966 and I can't even remember being this torqued off at the team in the late 70s. At least, I could comfort myself in knowing we just didn't have very good players back then. We've got some players now, we just have a coach who's in over his head and is coaching like he's afraid. Well, he should be afraid. Keep coaching like this and you WILL be looking for work, bastage! __________________ One of the lowest PPD of any of the original members of the Planet . . . and proud of it. My web site My writer's page
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