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Old 02-29-2008, 01:34 PM  
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Donks release Javon Walker

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Old 02-29-2008, 02:01 PM   #16
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99.9% of Chief fans hate Carl Peterson and want him fired. I don't hear a whole lot of bitching about Shanahan.
My boss is from Denver and is a Donk fan, he thinks Shanny walks on water
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Old 02-29-2008, 02:01 PM   #17
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99.9% of Chief fans hate Carl Peterson and want him fired. I don't hear a whole lot of bitching about Shanahan.
I know, I was just phacking with ya.

Speaking for myself I am okay with some of Shanny's moves not panning out because right or wrong he at least is always active. He comes out ahead in most of the trades/deals he makes and takes his shots to try for the next SB ring. IN today's NFL you never know how a player is going to pan out. Javon Walker turned into a whiny bitch girl when he lost his #1 slot to a young gun.
Phock him, it isn't Shanny's fault Walker would rather cry than try.

If anything I would like to see him a little less active in the FA market and concentrate more on building some young guys like he did last year.
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Old 02-29-2008, 02:01 PM   #18
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Old 02-29-2008, 02:02 PM   #19
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I don't know, why don't we ask Carl Peterson what he thinks?
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Old 02-29-2008, 02:06 PM   #20
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When is Pat Bowlin and the fans going to start to hold Shanahan responsible for all his ****ups? Pretty much every decision he has made at least in FA sucks ass. His drafts haven't fared much better either.
Shanahan isn't hitting on 100% of his moves, but ... he has more successes than failures. And, he is more active than the average coach when it comes to changing things. Is it over the top sometimes? Possibly, but you can't say he is ever just "content".

I'm not going to fault him for taking a chance and failing...

The Plummer experiment was interesting, but you can't argue with the wins during that tenure. The revolving door at RB has been frustrating, but they've been successful more often than not.

The trade for Bailey worked... signing guys via FA like Lynch, Stokely and others have worked. There have been a fair share of failures as well during that time.

I look at the drafts and yes, there have been a number of misses. However, he's hit on several as well over the years.

The 2006 class is something that looks to be very nice.

2006 - Denver Broncos
RdSel #PlayerPositionSchool
111Jay CutlerQBVanderbilt
261Tony SchefflerTEWestern Michigan
4119Brandon MarshallWRCentral Florida
4126Elvis DumervilDELouisville
4130Domenik HixonWRAkron
5161Chris KuperGNorth Dakota
6198Greg EslingerCMinnesota


There were some forgettable drafts without a doubt in the years before 2005 and you see that now with the holes on the team.

I'm not saying the guy hasn't failed at times, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because to be honest... I'm not sure I like the idea of not having Shanahan as the coach right now.

2007 was only the 2nd losing season for Denver since 1995... that's a nice history of not sucking and something that speaks well to his ability to field a team that is better than "just average".

We'll see what happens this season.
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Old 02-29-2008, 02:11 PM   #21
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I'd say 2006 was a good draft for the Donks.
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Old 02-29-2008, 02:26 PM   #22
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I thought I read earlier this offseason that Walker wanted out of Denver over some bad blood and the fact that he said everywhere he looks he sees D. Williams. That would suck I think.
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Old 02-29-2008, 02:28 PM   #23
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I thought I read earlier this offseason that Walker wanted out of Denver over some bad blood and the fact that he said everywhere he looks he sees D. Williams. That would suck I think.
that'd be pretty effed up
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Old 02-29-2008, 02:32 PM   #24
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Broncos released WR Javon Walker, according to ESPN's Michael Smith.
He's a big name, but Walker's contract and knee injury made it an easy choice by Denver. That no one chose to give up a late-round pick for Walker is telling. It's rumored that he could need microfracture surgery in the future, although he will have plenty of suitors lined up with MRI machines. Dallas, Washington, Philadelphia, and Tampa Bay have been rumored to be interested.
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Old 02-29-2008, 02:47 PM   #26
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I don't hear a whole lot of bitching about Shanahan.
There is plenty of it going on around Denver.
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Old 02-29-2008, 02:57 PM   #27
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I thought I read earlier this offseason that Walker wanted out of Denver over some bad blood and the fact that he said everywhere he looks he sees D. Williams. That would suck I think.
I remember reading shortly after D.Williams was shot that Walker wanted out but was talked into staying.
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Old 02-29-2008, 03:07 PM   #28
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I remember reading shortly after D.Williams was shot that Walker wanted out but was talked into staying.
Maybe a change of scenery will help him. I say if he's reasonably priced and passes our physical, why not?
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Old 02-29-2008, 03:10 PM   #29
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My question for vali and MHM is how much longer do you give Shanahan?
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My question for vali and MHM is how much longer do you give Shanahan?
He has it as long as he wants it.

Two seasons more at the least would be my guess.
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