Packers Also offered a 3rd Rounder

[StcChief]

Originally Posted by frazod

It seems pretty clear that for Tony the last straw was being dissed by the team during the Denver game. Would a pass have been riskier than a run up the gut? Sure. But WHO CARES? It's not like we were playing for a first round bye here. I think if he gets that pass and his three yards, none of this shit ever would have ever happened in the first place.

yep.... that likely was the last straw in TG's mind....

an Off-season move will surely happen. Hope TG gets thru season un-injured

[CoMoChief]

**** THIS TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sure-Oz]

Chiefs lose either way...

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg

McCarthy coached quarterbacks in Kansas City in 1997 and ’98, Gonzalez’s first two seasons there. Several of his coaches, including Tom Clements, Mike Stock, Carl Hairston and Kurt Schottenheimer, also spent time in Kansas City during Gonzalez’s career.

MIKE STOCK?!!!......... KURT F*****G SCHOTTENHEIMER?!!!..... How is it they are still employed by the NFL?!

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg

A source familiar with negotiations told the Journal Sentinel that Chiefs President Carl Peterson ultimately decided to retain Gonzalez after turning down the best offer from Green Bay, which was a third-round selection. The source said Peterson wanted a second-rounder to make the deal.

The decision by general manager Ted Thompson not to send the second-round pick to Kansas City was made just minutes before the National Football League trading deadline of 3 p.m.

I am with Carl on this one. A 9 year pro-bowl TE with a good 3 years in his tank is worth at least a late 2nd.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Frankie

I am with Carl on this one. A 9 year pro-bowl TE with a good 3 years in his tank is worth at least a late 2nd.

And the NFL teams interested just essentially told you and Carl that you must be ****ing high.

[PastorMikH]

If Tony is willing to play 3 more years as he told the Packers, why not be patient here? Unless he has absolutely no faith in Herm's plan that is. 2011 should be more than enough time for this groupl of players to mature and make a run.

[HC_Chief]

Originally Posted by PastorMikH

If Tony is willing to play 3 more years as he told the Packers, why not be patient here? Unless he has absolutely no faith in Herm's plan that is. 2011 should be more than enough time for this groupl of players to mature and make a run.

Packers have a QB, a semi-competent defense, and a coaching staff/front office not suffering from a sever case of rectal-cranial inversion.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by PastorMikH

Unless he has absolutely no faith in Herm's plan that is.

It sounds like he is not the only one sour on Herm and his "plan." It has been my experience, you need to earn the respect of your men, to get them to follow you and give unconditional commitment.

Do you really think Herm has earned ANYONE'S respect, enough to follow him?

Sure the rookies and marginal players are going to, they have to in order to keep a spot in the NFL.

But the Stars? Nope, it started with Trent Green, he saw through Herm right away. Tony has basically had his fill of Herm the way I see it.
Is Lj the same way?

[PastorMikH]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

It sounds like he is not the only one sour on Herm and his "plan." It has been my experience, you need to earn the respect of your men, to get them to follow you and give unconditional commitment.

Do you really think Herm has earned ANYONE'S respect, enough to follow him?

Sure the rookies and marginal players are going to, they have to in order to keep a spot in the NFL.

But the Stars? Nope, it started with Trent Green, he saw through Herm right away. Tony has basically had his fill of Herm the way I see it.
Is Lj the same way?

No, I don't think Herm has any of the veteran respect outside of maybe Waters.

I thought it was pretty clear yesterday in the interview the way Herm reacted when asked about what it says about the organization when TG asks to be traded. He got really defensive. There is unrest between players and Herm or he wouldn't have acted that way.

Also, on the press conference yesterday, what does it say about a HC that doesn't at least communicate with his best players? He hasn't talked with LJ about the off-the-field problems that might affect him playing? He hasn't talked with Tony about Tony's wanting to be traded?


Herm's more lost than Gunther was as HC.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by PastorMikH

If Tony is willing to play 3 more years as he told the Packers, why not be patient here? Unless he has absolutely no faith in Herm's plan that is. 2011 should be more than enough time for this groupl of players to mature and make a run.

It's trade Tony in the offseason or put the Chiefs in a situation to be competetive next year. To do that we have to bring in a few free agents and a free agent QB. Things I think we should do next year anyway IMO. I'm not saying abandon the rebuild but we gotta have a QB and we gotta have a line to block for him. We can still draft a QB though.

PhilFree

[philfree]

Originally Posted by milkman

And the NFL teams interested just essentially told you and Carl that you must be ****ing high.

I think they said they're cheap ass mo fo's and they'd love to have Gonzo but only if they can steal him.

PhilFree

[milkman]

Originally Posted by philfree

I think they said they're cheap ass mo fo's and they'd love to have Gonzo but only if they can steal him.

PhilFree

No.

It was fair market value.

[Bowser]

Jesus. This organization is 1990's Cardinals bad.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by milkman

No.

It was fair market value.

I'm not sure we agree about that. The 22nd pick or worse in the 3rd round? I'm guessing where the Pack will pick in the 2009 draft but I can't be far off. Maybe the top five in the 3rd round would have been okay. Tony is still a great player as he showed in the Denver game when he made that great catch for a TD. Looking at what Dallas gave for Williams I think a 2nd was more fair for the Chiefs. That said I'm glad Tony is still a Chief for now.

PhilFree