Football Mayo named Defensive rookie of the year - Page 2

Amnorix · 01-02-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

New England wanted Gholston, by the way...and we saw how good his rookie campaign turned out.

Rumor is we didn't, though it's obviously impossible to know for certain either way.

Besides, I wouldn't project Gholston's success (or lack thereof) with the Jets as being identical to what he would have enjoyed with the Patriots. I think there's more than enough evidence to show that the Patriots do a better job than most of "putting their players in a position to succeed."

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-31-2008, 12:05 PM

If Flowers was in NE and Mayo in KC, Flowers wins the award no questions asked.

Hootie · 12-31-2008, 12:09 PM

I wonder how many games the Jets would have won with Chad Pennington as their QB?

I say 10...Favre SUCKED this year. Plain and simple. Turnover machine.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-31-2008, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

I wonder how many games the Jets would have won with Chad Pennington as their QB?

I say 10...Favre SUCKED this year. Plain and simple. Turnover machine.

I predicted he'd have 16 TDs and 26 picks, so he actually overachieved what I thought he'd do...then again, he only turned into Brett Favre in the last half of the season. Had he been that Favre the whole year, he would have thrown 35-40 picks.

Hootie · 12-31-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I predicted he'd have 16 TDs and 26 picks, so he actually overachieved what I thought he'd do...then again, he only turned into Brett Favre in the last half of the season. Had he been that Favre the whole year, he would have thrown 35-40 picks.

He almost had me fooled when they were 8-3...my friends are Packers fans and I've ragged on Favre for years and those guys will never say a bad thing about him...it's always the receiver running the wrong route or blah blah blah...the dude has been MEDIOCRE for the last 5-6 years...he loses more games than he wins...

Aaron Rodgers led the Packers to more offensive points in less drives than Favre did a year ago...the Packers 6-10 record is a reflection on their defense...of course these same dudes claim the Packers are still a 13 win team with Favre...the same Favre who choked away a potential Super Bowl appearance with a Favre-esque overtime INT against the Giants @ Lambeau in the NFC Championship last season.

Mr. Laz · 12-31-2008, 12:10 PM

if we had won more than 2 freakin games some of our players might of received real consideration.

beach tribe · 12-31-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

if we had won more than 2 freakin games some of our players might of received real consideration.

This. And if we would have had pass rush Flowers would have shined like a diamond. I can't wait to see what this guy can really do. He's gonna be special. I don't care who won the award Flowers may very well be the best D player from this draft.

Hootie · 12-31-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

This. And if we would have had pass rush Flowers would have shined like a diamond. I can't wait to see what this guy can really do. He's gonna be special. I don't care who won the award Flowers may very well be the best D player from this draft.

Depends.

From what I understand, Flowers is suppose to be the PERFECT cover 2 cornerback...

How much cover 2 will we be playing next season? Our players were all drafted to play for Herm and Herm's system...that's some food for thought...if we switch to 3-4, what are we going to do with Dorsey? Is he versatile enough to be an end?

beach tribe · 12-31-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

Depends.

From what I understand, Flowers is suppose to be the PERFECT cover 2 cornerback...

How much cover 2 will we be playing next season? Our players were all drafted to play for Herm and Herm's system...that's some food for thought...if we switch to 3-4, what are we going to do with Dorsey? Is he versatile enough to be an end?

Flowers has the talent to play in any defense. I'll bet he can be a shutdown man 2 man corner with a pass rush. We didn't play much cover 2 this year anyway. It's just our base package.

Hootie · 12-31-2008, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Flowers has the talent to play in any defense. I'll bet he can be a shutdown man 2 man corner with a pass rush. We didn't play much cover 2 this year anyway. It's just our base package.

Hopefully...Flowers was a top 10 or 15 pick in the midseason "re-draft"...said he would have been top 10 all along if he was 6'0" or 6'1"...

beach tribe · 12-31-2008, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

Depends.

From what I understand, Flowers is suppose to be the PERFECT cover 2 cornerback...

How much cover 2 will we be playing next season? Our players were all drafted to play for Herm and Herm's system...that's some food for thought...if we switch to 3-4, what are we going to do with Dorsey? Is he versatile enough to be an end?

I was wondering about whether Dorsey could be a 3-4 end.

Mr. Laz · 12-31-2008, 12:17 PM

Favre has always needed someone to keep a leash on him or he just gets wild and out of control.

gotta hire a coach to just sit there and nag Favre before every play ..... "see it before you throw it" "don't just chuck it" "Be smart"

over and over again

Hootie · 12-31-2008, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

Favre has always needed someone to keep a leash on him or he just gets wild and out of control.

gotta hire a coach to just sit there and nag Favre before every play ..... "see it before you throw it" "don't just chuck it" "Be smart"

over and over again

What really gets me is...the Jets offense would have been perfect for Chad Pennington...

Good offensive line, great running game, good receivers...and Chad isn't turnover prone.

The Jets win 10 or 11 with Chad, that's for sure...Favre hurt that team far more than he helped them...but he's Brett Favre so he gets a pass.

beach tribe · 12-31-2008, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

What really gets me is...this offense would have been perfect for Chad Pennington...

Good offensive line, great running game, good receivers...and Chad isn't turnover prone.

This team wins 10 or 11 with Chad, that's for sure...Favre hurt that team far more than he helped them...but he's Brett Favre so he gets a pass.

This team? As in the Chiefs? You're smokin crack. The Dolphins D should get as much credit for their record as Chad.

Hootie · 12-31-2008, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

This team? As in the Chiefs? You're smokin crack. The Dolphins D should get as much credit for their record as Chad.

I was talking about the Jets in that post...it does look like I might have been talking about the Chiefs...no friggin' way...Chad doesn't make it through three weeks on the Chiefs.

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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Favre has always needed someone to keep a leash on him or he just gets wild and out of control. gotta hire a coach to just sit there and nag Favre before every play ..... "see it before you throw it" "don't just chuck it" "Be smart" over and over again __________________
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