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Old 03-22-2009, 12:15 AM  
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Alternate Reality Game 1: Chiefs

The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.

1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.

2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.

3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.

4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.

5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.

6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ory?id=2410670. If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 35 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ory?id=2410670. If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.



Original post: You can ignore this now.


Okay, having tested the waters I think we've got enough interest in this. There will be two other games as well that I'll announce soon.

The concept of this game is to, over a series of years, see which Chiefsplanet members are best at building a team. We can have an unlimited number of players, and this game will take very little time on your part - just a little bit of time and some voting.

Here's how the game will work.

Step 1. First, you have to locate your team in a city. It cannot be in a city that has an existing NFL team, so you must pick from the following cities, which are the largest cities that don't have an NFL team, but ensuring that there's at least one city in every state. If we have more than 100 players I'll add to this list. (List deleted for brevity. If you start playing, just pick a city.)


Step 2. Once the NFL draft is complete on April 26, owners will select players who were available with each Chiefs selection (i.e., do their own draft) and add these people to their roster. If the Chiefs make any draft day trades, the player may choose to accept or reject the trade and act accordingly.

Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 40 (Edited up from 35) Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 13 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub".

Step 4. At the end of the season, the person will provide an overview of who started at each position over the course of the year, providing the number of starts at each position by each player. Edit: the rules for doing so are discussed in Post 285.

Step 5. At the end of the season, we will have a Survivor-style vote among the general Chiefsplanet population to determine who had the best team that year, including impacts of injuries and other issues.

Step 6. In Year 2 (and beyond), the player starts with his/her core of 40 players, adds new players through the draft, and can then pick another core of players from the following pool: their 40-player core, new drafted players, and any new free agent that joins the Chiefs

If the Chiefs make a trade that includes draft picks, each owner can choose to accept or reject that trade on their own team. If the Chiefs make a trade involving a player on the Chiefs roster, the owner can accept that trade ONLY if his/her own roster includes that player.

There will be no trades between owners, and no implications of the salary cap.

I realize that in the first season we'll have a lot of players with similar rosters, but they'll diverge over time and that's where it'll get interesting.

So...if you're interested in playing, claim your city and name your team.


Teams As Of Post #113:


Alaska (Anchorage) Watchmen (cdcox)
Austin [name to be determined] (Hound333)
Billings Snake Filets (KCChiefsman)
Cheyenne Buckshot Cheneys (banyon)
Des Moines [yet to be named] (Hoover)
Duluth Normans (Rain Man)
El Paso The Courvoisier (DeezNutz)
Fargo Rape (SNR)
Fort Wayne Dancers (Chiefs=Good)
Fresno Refugees (Adam)
Harrisburg Beer Farts (Otter)
Hartford Manticores (Crush)
Honolulu Craters (Sully)
Knoxville Nukes (Patteeu)
Las Vegas Hitmen (Bowser)
Little Rock Reapers (doomy3)
Los Angeles Cobras (chiefscafan)
Madison Beers (Spicy McHaggis)
Memphis Jackals (Ultra Peanut)
Oklahoma City Boom (Sanka)
Omaha Streakers (speak24)
Orlando Beakers (ChiefsCountry)
Reno Sheriff Department (MWagg72)
San Antonio Scorpions (truebigdog)
Scranton Paper Packers (bdeg)
Sioux Falls Slackers (pestilenceaf23)
Spokane [yet to be named] (Mr. Flopnuts)
Springfield (Missouri) Cashew Chickens (H5N1)
Wichita [yet to be named] (jwazzie)
Winston-Salem Warlocks (ArrowheadHawk)
Worcester Sauce (unothadeal)

Added Rules and Reminders:

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.

3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ory?id=2410670. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 35 percent.

For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 850 points. The 10th pick is normally 1,300 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*1,300, or 1,495 points.

For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 850 points, but in this game it will be worth 553 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 480 points, so you can get 73 points back from the other team.

You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 73 points in the above example from a third team.)

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Old 04-29-2009, 08:23 PM   #136
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Old 04-29-2009, 08:41 PM   #137
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Old 04-29-2009, 09:27 PM   #138
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1. The Hartford Manticores reject the Cassel/Vrable trade.
2. The Hartford Manticores accept the Tony Gonzalez trade.
3. The Hartford Manticores accept the 2009 7th Round pick for the 2010 7th Round pick trade.

The 2009 Hartford Manticores Draft:

#3 - Mark Sanchez - QB - USC
#34 - Ron Brace - NT - Boston College
#67 - Alex Magee - DT - Purdue
#102 - Donald Washington - CB - Ohio State
#139 - Jamon Meredith - OT - South Carolina
#175 - Quentin Lawrence - WR - McNeese State
#212 - A.Q. Shipley - C/OG - Penn State
#237 - Rashad Jennings - RB - Liberty
#256 - Dannell Ellerbe - LB - Georgia
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Old 04-29-2009, 09:35 PM   #139
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Yep.

I'm working on my team now. Just gotta review the draft.
35 players is going to mean that there is going to be a lot of scrubs playing if there are injuries. For instance....35 players equals out to be.

QB - 2
RB - 2
WR - 4
TE - 1
LT - 1
LG - 1
C - 1
RG - 1
RT - 1

LE - 2
NT - 2
RE - 2
LOLB - 2
LILB - 1
RILB - 1
ROLB - 2
CB - 4
FS - 2
SS - 1
K - 1
P - 1


Is that really enough? I'm thinking that we should cut it down to 8-10 scrubs.....or maybe less.
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Old 04-30-2009, 10:04 AM   #140
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1. The Knoxville Nukes accept the Cassel/Vrabel trade.
2. The Knoxville Nukes accept the Gonzales trade.
3. The Knoxville Nukes accept the 2009 7th round pick for 2010 7th round pick.

2009 Knoxville Nukes Draft

#3 - Tyson Jackson DE LSU
#34 (Traded for Cassel)
#67 - Kraig Urbik G Wisconsin
#102 - Donald Washington CB Ohio State
#139 - Colin Brown OT Missouri
#175 - Quinten Lawrence WR McNeese State
#212 - Javarris Williams RB Tennessee State
#237 - Ricky Jean-Francois DT LSU
#256 - Ryan Succop K South Carolina
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Old 04-30-2009, 07:30 PM   #141
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1. The Fresno Refugees reject the Cassel/Vrabel trade.
2. The Fresno Refugees accept the Gonzales trade.
3. The Fresno Refugees accept the 2009 7th round pick for 2010 7th round pick.

The 2009 Fresno Refugees NFL Draft

#3 - Mark Sanchez - QB - USC
#34 - Clint Sintim - OLB - Virginia
#67 - Chase Coffman - TE - Missouri
#102 - Donald Washington - CB - Ohio State
#139 - Colin Brown - OT - Missouri
#175 - Quinten Lawrence - WR - McNeese State
#212 - Javarris Williams - RB - Tennessee State
#237 - Jake O'Connell - WR - Miami (Ohio)
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Old 04-30-2009, 07:34 PM   #142
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Rainman - can you please set a "LOCK" date on these? That would allow early birds to make changes up until the date you set, and ensure that we identify the teams that flake out well ahead of training camp.

Thanks for organizing this. Should be a lot of fun.
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Old 05-01-2009, 08:37 PM   #143
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Rainman - can you please set a "LOCK" date on these? That would allow early birds to make changes up until the date you set, and ensure that we identify the teams that flake out well ahead of training camp.

Thanks for organizing this. Should be a lot of fun.
What do you mean by "LOCK" date?
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Old 05-01-2009, 11:02 PM   #144
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What do you mean by "LOCK" date?
It's a deadline for picking your draft decisions. Early birds (like the ones who have responded so far) aren't "locked" until that date, and anybody who fails to get their picks in prior to that date is disqualified.

Maybe one alternative to being disqualified would be they are forced to go with status quo Chiefs draft for that given year.
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Old 05-01-2009, 11:06 PM   #145
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Old 05-02-2009, 06:58 AM   #146
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It's a deadline for picking your draft decisions. Early birds (like the ones who have responded so far) aren't "locked" until that date, and anybody who fails to get their picks in prior to that date is disqualified.

Maybe one alternative to being disqualified would be they are forced to go with status quo Chiefs draft for that given year.

I like this. Maybe we lock as of 10 days before Chiefs training camp starts.

And I like the status quo draft thing for late arrivals, too. Let's do it.
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Old 05-02-2009, 09:50 AM   #148
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1. The Duluth Normans reject the Cassel/Vrable trade.
2. The Duluth Normans reject the Tony Gonzalez trade.
3. The Duluth Normans reject the 2009 7th Round pick for the 2010 7th Round pick trade.

The 2009 Duluth Normans Draft:

#3 - Mark Sanchez - QB - USC (went to Jets)
#34 - Rey Maualuga - ILB - USC (went to Bengals)
#67 - Derrick Williams - WR - Penn State (went to Lions)
#102 - D.J. Moore - CB - Vanderbilt (went to Bears)
#139 - Duke Robinson - G - Oklahoma (went to Panthers)
#175 - Myron Pryor - DT - Kentucky (went to Patriots)
#212 - Zack Follett - OLB - California (went to Lions)
#237 - No pick - Rejected Trade
#256 - Alex Boone - OT - Ohio State (not drafted, signed by 49ers)
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Old 05-02-2009, 09:54 AM   #149
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Two thoughts:

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Just a thought: what would people think about this option? Using the NFL draft value chart, you can trade up or down by paying a premium of 15 percent. In other words, you can trade up if you pay at least 15 percent more than the stated value of the draft, or you can trade down if you accept 85 percent of the stated value of the picks you're losing. And any trades have to be with one other NFL team, not a combination. If we did this, I think we'd have to not allow trades using future year picks since there's no third-party table of those values. If people like it, let's do it, but otherwise I'm not hard-core about it.
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Old 05-02-2009, 09:59 AM   #150
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35 players is going to mean that there is going to be a lot of scrubs playing if there are injuries. For instance....35 players equals out to be....




Is that really enough? I'm thinking that we should cut it down to 8-10 scrubs.....or maybe less.

This is a good point.

My initial thinking was that I didn't want people to just end up with the final 53 other than their draft picks, so I wanted to go lower. I thought maybe we could ramp the number up each year as the teams start to diverge from each other.

Should we start at 40?

And I guess maybe it doesn't make a lot of difference now that I think about it, because since we're all picking from a pretty similar pool (other than draft picks), most of us would have the same scrubs anyway.

What do others think?
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