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View Poll Results: How do you feel about the fact that 1 of 3 bankruptcies are medically related???
Hey, medical professionals and technology are worth it; bankruptcy or NOT, bitch!!! 2 6.06%
Hey, sorry...not everyone can have a Mercedes; if loser-middle-class asses can't pay the bills, beat it bitches!!! 1 3.03%
You know, healthcare is a commodity; live with it. You want to live---PAY for it, bitch. 4 12.12%
Medical expenses are expensive---but in a free market, shit happens. 4 12.12%
Medical expenses are out-of-control, but significant government accountability and over-sight is, like, un-American man. 2 6.06%
Healthcare has brought this on themselves; half, or more, of bankruptcies due to healthcare? Fugg 'em, at this point... 20 60.61%
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:41 PM  
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So, HALF of all bankruptcies are Healthcare related?
So, no one likes "big" government (I mean, really...given a 'choice')...yet at LEAST 1 in 3 (to be CONSERVATIVE; more like 1 in 2) bankruptcies in the U.S. are the result of medical bills/related expenses.

How do you REALLY feel about this???
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:39 AM   #181
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You are preaching to the choir....our stories are similar in many ways. Long story short, I chose teaching over law school. You sound a lot like I did 10-15 years ago. Suffice it to say, life isn't nearly as simple and neat as you perceive it to be at this point in life. It's much more complicated than you seem to appreciate at this point--but that's not unusual.

I'll be shocked, based on what I've read from you, if you don't moderate and temper your strident attitude. Age and experience make smart people smarter as they mature. Unfortunately, money sometimes has a way of mitigating that normal evolution for some though....so it ain't a done deal. Best wishes.
Yeah, no arrogance and ignorance here at all.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:41 AM   #182
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No you haven't.
Says the resident expert on arrogance.
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Says the resident expert on arrogance.
Yes, but unlike you I'm not absurdly denying my arrogance at the same time I'm demonstrating it.
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:39 AM   #184
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Yes, but unlike you I'm not absurdly denying my arrogance at the same time I'm demonstrating it.
I don't recall denying my own arrogance--only pointing it out in others as well.
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I DID work in the industry for about a year, in 1990 for Baxter Healthcare.
About a year, 20 years ago.

I guess that gives me enough qualification to be the Chiefs' next safety...
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:46 AM   #186
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District sales manager for a 12 district area covering 3+ states isn't exactly a peon, or an average "worker." I understand profit-motive, but profit-motive and business ethics need not be mutually exclusive.

Instead of enriching insurance companies, new funds from mandated coverage should be utilized to reduce consumer cost. Companies won't do that themselves; that's why government regulation and oversight--and a public option are necessary. It's also why the industry is fighting so hard to defend their cash cow.
That doesn't make you an entrepreneur/owner either. That's what I'm referring to. The one who has a stake in it more. That's still a worker too.
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Several of us have made the argument that allowing politics in the Lounge makes these discussions more interesting because of the wider range of people participating and makes them more civil because the battle lines aren't as clearly drawn and because of the peer pressure to keep things tolerable to the wilting lilies among us.


Those are valid points, and seemed to hold true in this thread.
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My parents weren't rich, but they were comfortably middle class. It was pretty similar to the Ward and June Cleaver family, except the Beaver and I had two sisters.

Finally!! Someone who isn't afraid to admit to a comfortable childhood!!

Good for you, patteau. It's ok to be proud of who you are and where you come from, regardless of how well off you might have been!
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I don't recall denying my own arrogance--only pointing it out in others as well.
Age isn't doing much for your arrogance/ignorance combo, but it is making you forgetful.

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Political Sci...I'll match you with mine. Married and young though, I remember what things looked like back then too. Married for 20 years, with four kids....well, I outgrew that youthful arrogance and ignorance. Good luck to you in your journey to do the same.

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Age isn't doing much for your arrogance/ignorance combo, but it is making you forgetful.

I've outgrown youthful arrogance and ignorance...

Sorry about those pesky adjectives.
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I've outgrown youthful arrogance and ignorance...

Sorry about those pesky adjectives.
I doubt that you're fooling anyone.
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